Hi :) +1 One advantage of Base is that it can connect to such a wide range of other database programs. It is kinda the default way of using Base. MS Access can be twisted into using an external database but it's not as easy to set-up that way as Base.
Kexi and other front-ends can be used either alongside Base or on other systems by other users to use the same external back-end as the Base users connect to. Again this "playing well with others" is a huge advantage that Access doesn't have by default. Sadly the marketing team, if and when they ever mention Base, focus on using the internal back-end and never even mention the advantages that Base has. This could be one reason why we see so many people using the internal back-end and comparing it negatively against Access. Unfortunately the marketing team took such strong offence to my objections to their attempts to market Base on it's weakest points instead of it's strength that they banned me from posting to their mailing list at all. Sometimes i am really not a "people person"! I think if we do mention specific back-ends, especially if they are owned by Oracle, then it is well worth pointing out other names. It's not about fanboyism, just about showing there are a wide range of choices - and that people might well already have a database (or even spreadsheet) that can be used without any export-import conversions. It is VERY good to know that use of internal back-end can be externalised fairly easily without having to go through all the troubles Ian Whitfield went through. On the other hand his move away from Java-based back-ends probably gave additional benefits! I definitely appreciate Andreas' posts in this thread! He has cleared-up several mysteries by explaining the problems "under the bonnet". It has also been good to see experienced and knowledgeable people giving anecdotal confirmation of Andreas' points. In answer to Jay's question there was some attempt to move to using "Firebird" rather than "HSqlDb" but i think that is still an "experimental feature" and that we now effectively have a choice of 2 internal back-ends neither of which work entirely as hoped for yet. With Firebird it feels like it is "on the way" though. Regards from Tom :) On 2 March 2015 at 21:09, Andreas Säger <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 02.03.2015 um 21:23 schrieb Tom Davies: > > Hi :) > > Apparently another great database program to use as a back-end is > > Postgresql. Some of the Postgresql people worked with the LibreOffice > > people to make a really good connector and then got that connector into > > LibreOffice main trunk. > > > > This is not a matter of partisanship, fanboyism nor objective evidence > of the better product. The important thing is that you are able to > connect to whatever you already have. The database of your online shop, > your business software, your accounting software, some dBase directory, > spreadsheets or csv files. The connectivity feature lets you use tabular > data without troublesome export/import. > > If all you have is an embedded HSQLDB, you can convert this to HSQL 2 > within minutes. Conversion into Postrgre/MySQL/whatever would require > careful editing of SQL scripts, testing and possibly adjustment of > queries, forms, reports. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
