Thanks.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: Hi :) > I think Dan's point is key. > > If you don't seem to need it then don't use it. I thik that's a good > general rule. A bit like if no-one is in the kitchen then why have the > lights on in there? > > Micheal Meeks was saying that it's still ok to write Extensions in Java > but you are not writing Extensions. You are like me, just a normal user. > His advice does seem to contradict everything i am hearing about Java at > the moment. The devs seem to have put a lot of effort into reducing the > amount of Java to the point where most users are unlikely to ever need it. > > However, Micheal is one of the lead devs and well respected so he is much > more likely to really know what is really going on whereas my information > is 2nd or 3rd hand and i'm not a dev so i could easily be missing some > crucial points. I think maybe i was a bit too harsh about blaming Oracle > for all of Java's problems. Maybe it was horribly broken before or that > currrent problems were inevitable or maybe reported problems are > over-stated. > > I switched Java off months ago and had no problems so i finally > uninstalled it around December and still had no problems. I think that is > the best route. Removing Java completely could be troublesome so it's best > to have a trial-period of seeing if you can do without it before > uninstalling it. You probably wouldn't take the bulb out of the kitchen > light just because you didn't think you would go into the kitchen at night. > It appears that Homeland Security in the US are recommending people > uninstall it but that could be a bogus report and even if not then it seems > they may not have considered the implications for normal or corporate users. > > A couple of machines at my place where Java is still installed grumble > when i open Firefox now, roughly since the Homeland Security report > apparently. Firefox now offers to update various plugins and things such > as Adobe Flash-Player, Adobe Reader(?!) and Java but then tells me it's > automatically blocked Java for me anyway. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: anne-ology <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Java > > To: "Dan" <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Date: Friday, 22 March, 2013, 17:56 > > Well, > > I guess I don't need it/them since any program I open seems > > to > > work fine - > > except the A-V > > program every so often pops up stating my system > > is in-secure due to some items not being up-dated ;-) > > [I > > click to see to what they're referring - it's the > > disabled java - maybe its not completely disabled, huh > > ;-) ] > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Dan Lewis <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > What are you using in LibreOffice that > > requires Java? Is there > > > something that you would like to use that requires > > Java? If so, by all > > > means update and enable it. Otherwise don't do anything > > about it. > > > I have Java enabled because I work > > with Base much of the time. (It > > > requires Java.) Otherwise, I probably would not need it > > myself. > > > > > > --Dan > > > > > > > > > On 03/22/2013 11:06 AM, anne-ology wrote: > > > > > >> Yikes, now > > I'm confused; yes, again ;-) > > >> > > >> I've had java > > disabled on this machine; but maybe its time to > > >> re-enable it - updating it ;-) > > >> > > >> Tom, do you > > know more re. java ... > > >> or > > Michael, do you know something more re. this. > > >> > > >> Eagerly > > awaiting to hear what to do re. this java; > > >> and > > please remember I don't comprehend computerese ;-) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Michael Meeks > > <[email protected] > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Tom, > > >> > > >>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:27 +0000, Tom Davies > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Now that Oracle are in charge of developing > > it Java seems to be > > >>>> increasing as a security risk. > > >>>> > > >>> You're > > smoking some good stuff here Tom ;-> Oracle are no doubt > > >>> improving the situation they inherited in Java > > just fine. Last I heard > > >>> rumour that RedHat were stepping up to support > > older versions too. > > >>> > > >>> It's a > > sensible thing to use Java for writing cross-platform > > >>> LibreOffice extensions. The only problem we > > have is with writing core > > >>> functionality in Java - since we can't be sure > > of the presence of a > > >>> suitable JVM on Windows machines. > > >>> > > >>> HTH, > > >>> > > >>> > > Michael. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> [email protected] > > <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot > > >>> > > >>> > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
