There is a difference between what the OS provides when running on the Windows 8 desktop versus running an MX application. So far, I've only seen OneNote MX on what's called the Metro (or Modern) interface.
The MX applications run full screen (or on the side) and the application has to be designed appropriately for it. I'd be surprised if it is practical to do this with the current OpenOffice-descendant code bases, especially for Windows RT, the version for ARM processors. I think extensive productivity applications will continue to run on the desktop side of Windows 8, at least when the computer keyboard and display form factors make that appealing. Versions designed for touch usage and MX-style will work on smaller form factors, including phones, and depend on the multi-touch gestures more. LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and Microsoft Office 2013 are desktop applications and benefit from what the OS provides without requiring application cooperation (apart from using the Windows APIs in ways that allows the OS personality to be extended to the application). For some form of inputs, such as accepting "ink," the application has to cooperate. (Windows 8 also supports use of pen and stylus input. The Windows 8 Surface comes with a stylus, but the Windows RT Surface does not. But Windows 7 and the Windows XP Tablet PC editions from 2005 all support this form of input.) Office 2007 does work with my Tablet PC's features, although I think it is essentially via OS provisions. There may be some accommodation for "ink" from the Tablet PC stylus, but I have not explored that beyond how it works with Office 2007 OneNote. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Tom Davies [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:44 To: [email protected]; 'ubuysa'; [email protected] Subject: Re: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) Hi :) I suspect that "compatible" means that it will work but that gestures and other stuff may not work fully and reliably. Does MSO 2007 support gestures? I doubt it. Some may work if the OS can access the relevant controls. From the original question i got the impression the person meant more than just working adequately and really wanted to know if everything was fully integrated and fully working. Hence why i said i doubt anything is properly fully Win8 ready. The separate track-pad looks quite nice. Not quite my cupp-tea although i like to play around with things like that for a while sometimes. When i was working in an accountancy practice i would have quite like a separate number-pad but only if it had a Tab key, to jump into the net field without having to reach for the mouse. The only ones i have seen are either thousands of pounds or miss crucial keys such as + and - let alone other useful ones such as Tab. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> >To: 'Tom Davies' <[email protected]>; 'ubuysa' ><[email protected]>; [email protected] >Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 16:55 >Subject: Windows 8 Compatibility (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 >error in RPCRT4.dll from soffice.bin) > >@Tom, > >What do you mean by "Win8 ready?" > >Do you mean integration with multi-touch, the additional UI provisions, or >what? > >If you mean certified for Windows 8, it will depend on whether the >requirements for that have been worked through. I know of no reason why >LibreOffice can't achieve that. I don't know if it has been done. I'd be >very surprised if older versions of Office don't already satisfy the essential >requirements. > >If you mean compatible with Windows 8, anything that is compatible with >Windows 7 should work. > >I just ran the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor on my aging Tablet PC, running >Windows XP SP3. It turns out that I can't upgrade because the processor on >that machine does not have hardware NX support, and Windows 8 requires it as >part of the tighter security with which it operates. > >However, on the review of software that needed to be upgraded or that is not >supported, Office 2007 was listed as Compatible. In addition, on that >particular machine, the Upgrade Advisor listed this software as compatible: > >OpenOffice.org 3.4.1 >Apache Software Foundation > >I'm confident, when I run the Windows 8 Upgrade Advisor where I have >LibreOffice installed, I will see a similar encouraging result. > >- Dennis > >PS: You can purchase boxed Microsoft Office 2013. It is very pricey. Here, >we'll be renting, since one single lease will cover all of our multiple >household machines and provide all of the Office components used here. It >will be much easier to have the same version of Office on all systems going >forward. It was too expensive to do that before. > >Some Personal Windows 8 Preparations: > >Something else I'm doing to prepare cutting over full to Windows 8 (with older >Windows and with Linux running in VMs for my document forensics work). >Logitech makes a Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad that provides multi-touch >gestures and other features. I am going to use it to replace my mouse on >Windows 7 and also confirm it with Windows 8 ahead of fully upgrading to >Windows 8: ><http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/touchpad-t650> > >On Windows 7, there are multi-touch gestures that can work to zoom, scroll, >etc. > >On Windows 8, additional touch features supported by the operating system will >also work. This allows me to keep my primary desktop system and its non-touch >30" monitor. > >The touchpad should be superior to working with only a mouse and knowing all >the keyboard shortcuts that make Windows 8 operable without touch (and useful, >though, for accessibility and integration with assistive devices). I expect >that LibreOffice integration should be fine, the same as for Windows 7. (I >also have added Office 2013 Preview installed on Windows 8, but I haven't put >it through its paces there. I don't know if there are additional Windows 8 >behaviors or if it also runs essentially the same as on Windows 7.) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Davies [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 05:00 >To: ubuysa; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from >soffice.bin > >Hi :) >Is anything Win8 ready? MS Office 2010 and 2007 aren't. With a new platform >like that it usually takes a while for people to find work-arounds and even >longer for the program to update to integrate better. For MSO that will >probably involve sitting out their newest version, MSO 365 and then buy their >next one (or rent as i'm not sure you can pay a one-off fee and then keep >using 'forever' any more). >Regards from >Tom :) > > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: ubuysa <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 9:22 >>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 0xc0000005 error in RPCRT4.dll from >>soffice.bin >> >>Don, >> >>Thanks for your suggestion, I did do a Google search before posting on here >>and none of the replies were terribly helpful. >> >>I have found a temporary solution; setting compatibility mode for >>swriter.exe to Windows 7 removes the problem completely. I'm now wondering >>whether LO 3.6 is truly Windows 8 ready? >> >>Thank you everyone for helping. >> >> >> >>-- >>View this message in context: >>http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/0xc0000005-error-in-RPCRT4-dll-from-soffice-bin-tp4023874p4024319.html >>Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >>-- >>For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] >>Problems? >>http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted >> >> >> >> >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
