Hi :)
Brilliant!!  Ahhh, just thought of a problem.  Was it xls or xlsX?  If it has 
an X at the end then just rename the file to replace .xlsx with .zip and then 
double-click on it.  

Can the xml files be pulled into a new file without pulling the password along 
at the same time?
Regards from
Tom :)  





>________________________________
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]>
>To: 'Dr. R. O Stapf' <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 14:34
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
> 
>It is important to separate the use of passwords to set 
>protections from use of a password to encrypt the document.  
>
>Only "Save with Password" provides cryptographic security 
>of the document.  
>
>The "Save with Password" encryption is difficult to attack.  
>The password is usually the weakest point and the password 
>may fall to a variety of attacks that use pre-computed 
>dictionaries of SHA1 digests and other brute-force 
>techniques.  It is also possible that an attack may break 
>the encryption without discovering the password itself.  
>All of these attacks are believed to required great effort.  
>In general, one should expect that a password used in 
>"Save with Password" is not discoverable unless it is 
>carelessly chosen or heavily reused.  
>
>The harder the password is to attack, the harder it is
>to recover, of course. 
>
>In contrast, all of the protection settings are insecure.  
>
>The protections are trivial to remove.  It can be done 
>by any knowledgeable user with a Zip utility and an XML 
>editor.  It is not necessary to know the password to 
>remove the protection.  However, all passwords used in 
>making protection settings should be considered compromised.  
>That is because the document stores an SHA1 or other unsalted
>hash in "plain view" in the document.  These hashes are 
>cracked with ease using conventional systems.  A password 
>used to set a protection should not be used for any 
>more-private purpose.  In particular, if the same passwords
>are used for protections on unencrypted documents and for 
>saving with password (encryption), the encryption can be 
>broken directly using the SHA1 digest from the protection 
>setting.
>
>Protection settings are on spreadsheet fields and sheets.  
>There are protection settings on text as well.  The 
>protection against altering change-tracking and the 
>protection for keeping a document read-only are all of 
>this kind.  The protection is useful for avoiding mistaken
>alterations.  
>
>It is easy for all of these protections to be removed, the
>document altered, and the protections restored with the 
>very same unlocking password without ever having to 
>know the password.  
>
>A digital signature can prevent the document from undetected
>alterations, but that doesn't work for turnaround documents 
>where some alterations are meant to be allowed.
>
>There is more explanation of the use and risk of protections, 
>and their removal, here:
><https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/00009-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html>
>
>A proposal for more-reliable security of protection passwords 
>(but not the protections themselves) is before the
>OASIS ODF TC:
><https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46220>.
>
>- Dennis
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dr. R. O Stapf [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 06:30
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
>
>you are perfectly right about this!!!
>
>
>On 16.10.2012 22:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>> Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are 
>> much better off not 
>> forgetting your password.
>
>
>
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