Tom, *thank you, thank you!* You have helped me more than anyone or any of my own study. You must have a lot of patience and a loadful of kindness. I am saving each of these emails. I can't see having any problems in the future, thanks to you. It's funny, though, that I couldn't find this info in the manuals, or in Wiki, and I've been through a lot of them.
I have encouraged a lot of people to use open source programs, especially LibreOffice. I know I will love it more now. Are you in the UK? I'm in Arizona, across the world . . . . Wanda Moore On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi :) > Errr, when you have to share files with other people it is best to send > them a pdf of the file so they see the way it should look. > File - "Export as Pdf" > works for me. > > Also when you first get a document from someone else it's a good idea to > File - "Save As ... " > and change the format to an OpenDocument Format such as Odt (for a 'text' > document as used by "Writer") or an Ods for spreadsheet (Calc) or an odg > for graphics (Draw). > > Keep saving your changes to the Odt but when you are ready to send it back > to the MS Office users use "Save As .. " again to make a copy in .Doc NOT > .DocX I think the format is listed as "MS Word (97/2000/Xp)". The DocX > introduced in MS Office 2007 and used in 2010 is difficult for most other > people, such as people using older versions of MS Office, so using it > forces people into buying the newer versions of MS Office > > Often when Pdfs are used on websites and sometimes even in emails people > give a link to the Adobe website so that the person trying to open the pdf > can download and hopefully install Adobe Reader and they make a fuss about > it being free (in cost). > > The same could be done with Odts and has sometimes met with success. At > my workplace all the machines now have LibreOffice installed although > people generally keep using MS Word. > > One advantage of LibreOffice is that it handles pictures and images more > flexibly. You can anchor to a page or to a paragraph (so that when the > paragraph moves the picture moves with it) or quite a few other options. > MS Office can only handle some of them. Also the wrap options allow text > to flow around the image or over the top so that the image is in the > background. Again MS Office only supports some of the options. Also in > LibreOffice you can move the picture around the document fairly freely but > MS Office often restricts movement to up&down or some other limited > option. So, at work we use LibreOffice for our Newsletter because there > are a lot of pictures in it. > > So when sharing with other people > 1. try to save documents in the native ODF format, such as Odt but then > re-save as Doc to send on to them and also send them a pdf > 2. suggest they install LibreOffice alongside their MS Office in the same > way they have Adobe Reader already. LibreOffice is tiny and very > light-weight. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > --- On Thu, 15/3/12, Wanda Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Wanda Moore <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice-text won't stay > put > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 15 March, 2012, 7:04 > > Thank you so much! I love it that I finally found out how to ask a > question! Most other sites don't respond at all. > > I will try the "anchor to page". I didn't understand that at first. I > still don't know what the other anchors do. And no, I can't do anything > inside the image I paste - text or not. But sometimes all I can do is use > Grab as "copy" doesn't work on PDFs. > > I really like Open Source programs. And I love LibreOffice. Well, now > that my problems are being solved! > > Thanks again! > > Wanda Moore > > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Steve Edmonds > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > On 2012-03-15 14:13, Wanda Moore wrote: > > > >> I have scoured the site to find where I can ask a question, but I > couldn't > >> find it. ( I tried the mailing list, but I got about 100 emails within > a > >> couple days, and all repeating over and over. ) > >> > >> I have Mac OS X and have been trying to use LibreOffice for a year at > >> least. I can't find out why the documents keep changing on me. I > "save" > >> everything I do, but when I come back to it, it is all mixed up. I home > >> school and use this program every day. I have spent hours redoing page > >> after page and it will still mess up. Some text will disappear. I have > >> downloaded PDF files and tried to copy/paste exercises for my kids, but > >> even though it is available for us to do that, it will not stay put on > the > >> page. > >> > >> I couldn't find any trouble shooting help, either, and I had a hard time > >> understanding the instructions. The language is too technical and not > >> clear to me. > >> > >> I do a lot of copying and pasting using different methods, but that > >> doesn't > >> change anything. Even if I just highlight a portion of text and click > >> "copy" and then "paste" it into a LO document, it will move. I also > use a > >> "Grab" addon tool and that moves around, too. > >> > >> I have always used a .doc format, but I don't know what is best anymore. > >> I > >> didn't have problems like this with Linux. Please help me with this > >> problem. No one I know even uses this program so I have no one else to > >> ask. > >> > >> Thank you so much in advance for any help you can give me! > >> > >> Wanda Moore > >> > >> Hi. > > With the Grab tool it grabs a screen image, like Ksnapshot or the windows > > snip tool, so you are probably pasting an image into your document. These > > can move around and you need to look at the Anchor and Wrap > > characteristics. You may find that anchor to page and no wrap suit your > > need. > > > > Copying from a PDF can be as an image or as text. Can you edit the text > > you copy from the PDF. If not it is probably an image and you should > treat > > it as for Grab above. > > > > steve > > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
