Glenn, I learned programming on an IBM mainframe using Punch Cards, my start in the industry predates Microsoft's founding. I can remember the switch from CP/M to DOS 1.0. So yes, I know exactly what Microsoft did to the industry, and how they did it. I've actually read many of the legal filings from the U.S. anti-trust case.
I also know their financial limits which you don't. Wayne On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Glenn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey GPD. > > Were you born yesterday? You seem to have no idea of the brutality MS > applied in the '80's and the following 2 decades against users. > > You don't have any overall computer savvy as far as I can tell; > you don't even know iMAC. > > The SEC stuff is a financial-gain ruse to rob users. > > Do some research and include all users. > > Educate yourself before making pronouncements. > > Thank you. > > Glenn > > > On 4/16/11 5:23 PM, Wayne Borean wrote: > >> HI, I'm new here. Pardon me while I tell everyone why you are all wrong, >> probably insult you all, and proceed to stick my foot in my mouth up to my >> hip (all the while being right). You can get the details off my >> site<http://madhatter.ca> >> >> . >> >> First, you have to understand that Microsoft is under severe financial >> pressure. If I've added the numbers up correctly they have about 3.5 years >> until they go into Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection. Before you start >> screaming that I am crazy, this is based on their SEC reports. Goto my >> site, >> search for the term Microsoft Death Watch. >> >> Second, all of the proprietary companies are under a lot of pressure at >> present. I'm working on an article to explain the exact reasoning, but the >> worst thing that could happen right now would be for Open Office and Libre >> Office to combine. I am deadly serious about this. I have coined a term >> for >> the process, and this explains why the big companies are pushing so >> heavily >> for software patents. >> >> Third, while Open Office/Libre Office has already destroyed a large part >> of >> Microsoft's profitability, there's another factor at play. After Steve >> Jobs >> returned to Apple, the company made a series of moves (which are still >> continuing) each of which hurt Microsoft. There's an old saying. Once is >> accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Let's look at >> the list: >> >> 1. Resurrected Mac OS as Mac OS X instead of adopting Windows >> 2. Kept Quicktime alive instead of adopting Windows Media >> 3. Developed IPod (which hurt Windows Media) >> 4. Developed ITunes (which hurt Windows Media) >> 5. Developed X86/X86-64 Mac (Which hurt Windows) >> 6. Developed IWork and sold it for $200.00 less per copy (which hurt >> Office Sales) >> 7. Developed IPhone (which hurt Windows Mobile) >> 8. Developed IPod Touch (which further hurt Windows Mobile) >> 9. Developed IPad (which hurt Windows for Tablets - well killed it >> >> really) >> >> I'm in a rush, so I probably missed a few. If three times is enemy action, >> what does *NINE* times count as - a paper cut? >> >> The only really profitable division that Microsoft has is their Business >> division (it brings in nearly half of the total company profits). With >> pressure from Apple, Open Office, Libre Office, Google, Word Perfect, >> etc., >> Microsoft is having to accept lower margins on sales, which cuts into >> profits. >> >> At the same time they are loosing Windows license sales to Apple (Mac, >> IPad), and in the future will be loosing them to Acer (Android), HP (Web >> OS), Dell (Ubuntu). Each lost OS sale means a smaller market for Office >> sales. If my reading of the numbers are right, the Year end 10Q filing >> will >> show some revenue drops in several places, which would be the first time >> ever that Microsoft has had revenue drops when there wasn't a massive >> recession hitting their competitors. Apple when reporting for the same >> time >> period will not show a drop. >> >> So you are facing an increasingly more desperate opponent. Microsoft will >> attempt anything to survive. Consider the new laws that they are trying to >> get passed in Washington State as an example, which will probably result >> in >> an exodus of large firms from that state. I wonder what the politicians >> will >> think then? >> >> The next five-ten years are going to match the 'May you live in >> interesting >> times' curse. >> >> Wayne >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Tom Davies<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: plino<[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, 16 April, 2011 10:07:11 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ellison's Oracle washes hands of >>> OpenOffice >>> >>> Good morning Tom ;) >>> >>> Although I agree with most of your arguments, Microsoft's position on >>> Office >>> has changed a lot lately. >>> >>> First it is almost impossible to buy a new Win7 machine which doesn't >>> have >>> some version of Office bundled. It varies from a Trial version to a >>> Starter >>> version and sometimes even the whole Office is included. >>> >>> On a second (and probably more important) front, Microsoft silently >>> retired >>> the Office Genuine Advantage check which prevented illegal copies to be >>> updated >>> >>> >>> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/microsoft-quietly-shuts-down-office-genuine-advantage-program/2798 >>> >>> >>> I think that Microsoft is taking measures to prevent it's users to shift >>> to >>> an Open Source Office suite ;) >>> >>> >>> Hi :) >>> Possibly but MS has not even really started to fight yet. Shop-bought >>> machines >>> often have tons of bloat installed, trialware and expensive stuff you >>> don't >>> really have an option about having or not having but just have to pay for >>> anyway. Shops profit from that and wouldn't be able to profit so much >>> from >>> free >>> software. So, yes, the odds are stacked against us. >>> >>> 1. At least as trials-end people are given an option to buy MS or not >>> even >>> if >>> they have been hooked on MS by then. >>> >>> 2. If people freshly install or reinstall Windows from Cd/Dvd (which >>> almost >>> never happens) that is where MS Office is not included. >>> >>> 3. an installed MS Office can be uninstalled without breaking the OS >>> 4. LibreOffice can be installed alongside MS Office >>> 5. People with 'old' versions of MS Office might choose us rather than >>> upgrade >>> to MSO >>> Not great options but its what we have. >>> Regards from >>> Tom :) >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> > > -- > Glenn > > "What might have been is an abstraction > Remaining a perpetual possibility > Only in a world of speculation." > T. S. 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