2011/1/19 Fabián Rodríguez <magic...@member.fsf.org>

> On 11-01-19 02:19 PM, baldwin linguas wrote:
> > She could probably add the repo to synaptic and install
> > by simply copy/pasting the repo url appropriately into
> > the synaptic repo tool, then searching, clicking, installing,
> > too, since we're in pointy clicky land here.
> > Not that learning to manage in the CLI is ever a bad idea,
> > and, in truth, it really IS simpler than all the gui-goodness (bloat).
> > Just, our job on this list is to help her get the LO software installed,
> > more than make a real hacker out of her.
> > Sometimes I think we scare folks off, is all.
> > I find nothing wrong with luring them in with all the eye-candy and
> newfangled
> > "user friendliness" (although I really concur with tuomo about that
> > term "user friendly"),
> > then, when they're really hooked, get 'em writing bash scripts and
> > learning ruby and python and shite...
>
> I would welcome detailed, tested steps to do the same in a GUI with less
> than the 4 steps I enumerated. :) Using a PPA is already a stretch of
> using "Linux for human beings", so is going to LibreOffice so early.
>
> Try describing what you wrote in detailed steps (as an exercise) and
> soon you will need screenshots, red circles and arrows pointing at
> stuff: "add the repo to synaptic and install by simply copy/pasting the
> repo url appropriately into the synaptic repo tool, then searching,
> clicking, installing, too, since we're in pointy clicky land here."
> While at it please define "repo", "synaptic", "repo url", "repo tool"
> and "installing"! I seriously wish PPAs where easier, but then we'd end
> up with Active X :D Such documentation shortcuts are impossible to
> decifer by most users and if expand them it becomes some huge
> intimidating document. I know about this from doing it full time for the
> last 4 years (for Ubuntu, specifically).
>
> I think a video might be in order :) Meh.
>

You really, really make a great point.
And, in fact, that's why I don't use all the gui stuff, dumped
KDE and gnome and other eye-candy bloat years ago, and learned to use the
CLI.
(let's just call it, "for efficiency's sake")
But, you know, it does make it "easier" for the new kids
out there in pointy-clicky land, if you have the patience to
make the video, and the glossy, full-color manuals.
I think that was Ubuntu's life purpose, or something...
To tack on bloat and eye-candy so the new kids could get their
feet wet.
Ubuntu: The Kiddy Pool of the Great Gnu/Linux Ocean!

;)

./tony

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