Yes, we are on the same page here. :) Great Flash clarification link. This kind of stuff should be on a reference website and placed all over the Internet.
Also an interesting theory about the backlash against HTML5, I hadn't heard that one yet. I've always believed the anti- movement was generally just ignorance from people who blame Flash for ads. (I hope they are enjoying their new, far more annoying and harder to block pop-up HTML ads... and all the new browser vulnerabilities?) But I do feel the anti-plugin/Flash sentiment started (possibly as just a niche group) before the HTML5 hype train had any steam. What a disappointment the HTML5 hype must be for those who bought into it; of course, many saw it coming years ago. -- Lou On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:42:57 -0500 jude <[email protected]> wrote: > One place I get constant Flash and web questions is Quora.com. I might be > the only one answering questions about Flash and Adobe Systems there. If > anyone can help there that'd be great. It's a huge community and while less > technical, it is the place ceo's, users and even software managers are > learning about Flash, Flex, AIR and even Flex JS (you're welcome). > > http://www.quora.com. > > Here's an older version of Flash Clarification > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UYbS1t6FInwqC1luYceYLzXDnQJe3L0DSQFi7KlIa5g/> > guide. It has links to statistics about Flash features, benefits, influence > on history of the web, vulnerabilities compared to other companies, etc. > > More recently, I've been realizing without a lot of proof, that the move to > remove plugins is a backlash from HTML5 movement (their lives suck no > surprise so they are seeing Flash as a patch for why browser vendors aren't > upgrading and fixing the web). getting rid of flash would hopefully force > browser vendors to make upgrades where flash was filling in. there's also > some political agenda (getting rid of Flash plugin allows DRM plugins). > It's not about removing plugins anymore as much as it's about controlling > the freedom of speech and access to media (RIAA is behind this). > > Twitter is also a place people need to defend Flash. Subscribe to a few > news sites and you'll find them outright lying about plugins. It's > unbelievable. > > Companies are still using plugins, just their plugins. And if Apple can get > rid of Flash in the browser it forces users to go to the app store to get > the same thing they got for free now as an app. They are destroying the web > for a money. Greed and fear is a funny terrible thing. > > Google, MS, Firefox, Apple and others just see Flash as the leader and > possibly want some of the advertising related income. There's a complete > picture we aren't getting here of course. > > Brendan Eich, briefly mentioned on twitter that Adobe went to him to see if > he could get other manufacturers to adobe AS3 in the browser. Imagine how > awesome that would have been. From how I interpreted it he was against it > and discouraged it. Absolutely unbelievable. I'll try and find the thread > if anyone is interested. Anyway, I agree. We HAVE to defend Flash and clean > up the mess some media outlets and companies are spreading. > > > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Karl KTA <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm not a Facebook fan and I am sure any one of us have developed and app > > that we can use for our own community. > > > > I have just joined the FB group that was posted just now on this thread. > > > > Flex needs us to be ambassadors, to encourage more coders and even better > > still - and more quickly AS2 coders back to the flock. > > > > I am happy to be part of a committee that leverages our combined resources > > and skills to bring coders back to the flock. > > > > I can be direct emailed at [email protected] > > > > > On 23 Apr 2016, at 10:29 PM, Nemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree. What I found out in last few years, when someone approaches me > > and > > > talks about Flex/AIR in like not having future, I always found that that > > > they haven't never build a larger project, and don't understand common > > > developer needs and the offer Flex gives you. Many still don't understand > > > Flash vs AIR, like Flash is not supported on that mobile phone so how can > > > you build apps for that platform? Source of their opinion is always the > > > same, they read it somewhere on news site. For Flex users, I found out > > it is > > > heavily used, and it seems to me that Flex developers are quiet and just > > use > > > it :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > > http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Thanks-to-the-Team-tp12566p12588.html > > > Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
