The speed difference between Centos and Ubuntu KVM hosts is 3 fold.

How do I check the rbd cache configuration on KVM hosts?

Thanks

Adam

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From: Andrija Panic <[email protected]>
Sent: 26 June 2018 15:00
To: users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CloudStack - KVM / Ceph Performance

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You are obviously hitting some issues on Centos vs Ubuntu as KVM host, and can 
be due to difference in kernel, ceph (librbd), libvirt/qemu...

But we have been using ceph (older, hammer release) with Ubuntu 14.04 and dont 
expect any miracle on single volume. BUT if you i.e. start Bitlocker drive 
encryption on multiple VMs at same time, you will be able to nicely saturate 
cluster to its full performance capacity.

It's known feature that CEPH "excellent on parallel streams /io" i.e.
single volume can't really reach nowhere near full performance of the cluster.

Again questions about rbd cache configuration on KVM hosts?

If you will eventually put more serious workloads on this specific cluster, it 
ain't gonna perform satisfactory for any customer - that is reality - been 
there, done that... moved away...
Sorry for being too honest...
(We had same size cluster, just used  Intel DC ssds for journals, collocated 
few journals on single SSD - not very optimal thought)

Cheers

On Jun 26, 2018 15:40, "Adam Witwicki" <[email protected]> wrote:

Used the same guest VM, with a Ubuntu and Centos KVM host

The Ubuntu host performed as expected, the guest on Centos KVM host is very slow

I have been testing with KVM virtio drivers packaged in centos7 and downloaded 
them for windows guests

Thanks

Adam


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Sent: 26 June 2018 13:35
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Subject: Re: CloudStack - KVM / Ceph Performance

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I assume you've checked to make sure you're using the KVM virtio drivers, right?


- Si


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From: Ivan Kudryavtsev <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:35 AM
To: users
Subject: Re: CloudStack - KVM / Ceph Performance

Hello, Adam. Try to attach md raid0 of two Ceph vols inside VM. I have heard 
that people who run ceph use that practice to improve results. I don't know 
what you are expecting, but read somewhere that all ops to a single RBD volume 
are queued in a single IO queue, thus RAID0 helps here, increasing the speed 
almost twice. I mean you don't see a ceph cluster overall performance, you see 
a librbd+qemu performance in your tests.

вт, 26 июн. 2018 г., 15:57 Adam Witwicki <[email protected]>:

> We are days away from completing our production CloudStack / Ceph
> deployment but have run into a small challenge in regards to Ceph
> performance. As you run a setup similar to ours I was wondering if
> you've seen a similar issue?
>
>
>
> Our Ceph cluster consists of 60 X 7.2K SAS drive, spread over 5 nodes
> each with a 960GB Samsung NVMe. Our KVM hypervisors are connected to
> this nodes via 2 x 10Gbps links, per node.
>
>
>
> 3 centos Cloudstack management servers 4.11.0
>
> 4 centos KVM hosts
>
>
>
> The RAW Ceph performance looks great!
>
>
>
> CEPH RAW
>
> *Average IOPS*
>
> *Max IOPS*
>
> *MB/sec*
>
> *Write 4K*
>
> 5,885
>
> 6,190
>
> 22.9907
>
> *Read 4K*
>
> 28,985
>
> 35,025
>
> 113
>
> *Write 4MB*
>
> 204
>
> 219
>
> 816
>
> *Read 4MB*
>
> 361
>
> 399
>
> 1447.51
>
>
>
> However when we run the tests from within KVM we get significantly
> reduced performance, particular in writes:
>
>
>
> VM Running on KVM Hypervisor
>
> *Average IOPS*
>
> *Max IOPS*
>
> *MB/sec*
>
> *Write 4K*
>
> 946.07
>
> 1390
>
> 3.69
>
> *Write 4MB*
>
> 472
>
> 614
>
> 116
>
>
>
> We believe the libvirt/ceph library could be causing the problem with
> in centos as we don't see this on a Ubuntu KVM HOST
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
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