Hi All,

Yes we will be implementing a 'generic' backup and recovery framework. We'll 
have the details in the wiki, this week or next.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Grégoire Lamodière <[email protected]> 
Sent: 23 April 2018 09:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: QEMU dirty-bitmap

Hi Simon, 

Thank you for your feedback.
I'll continue working on this.

In a more general perspective, this topic is related to backup process 
integrated into CS.
I remember an old thread (including @Paul I think) mentioning work on a backup 
API to give third part companies' ability to include CS in their supported 
environments.
Even if this approach sounds the easiest for us, as service provider (ie buy a 
licence, make 2 clicks, and let the proprietary tool make the job), I am not 
sure this is the best long term strategy, and so far, none of them support KVM.

Is there any interest of the community to integrate a backup solution inside CS 
? 
For us, the key features would be :
- Add backup menu entry for admins
- Create backup tasks inside CS, including destinations (nfs) and sources 
(host, pool, zone)
- Support full, incremental, and forever incremental backups
- Ability to restore instances directly to CS
- If dirty-bitmaps work fine, include the move of the bitmap when moving 
instance to a different host
- Support at least Xen and KVM

Right now, I think most of us use their own pieces of code.
Merging them into a proper feature would be a nice move.

We could also talk with the excellent XenOrchestra project (we use it for our 
Xen Pools) and offer assistance to support KVM and other hypervisor, but I am 
not sure this is their strategy, and with xenserver-ng, they might be quite 
busy.

Any opinion ?

Cheers.

Grégoire

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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Simon Weller <[email protected]> Envoyé : dimanche 22 avril 2018 
19:26 À : users <[email protected]> Objet : Re: QEMU dirty-bitmap

That looks pretty interesting. I'll read up on it. We've been more focused 
lately on working on Ceph replication, but this would be a nice way to handle 
it in a storage agnostic way.


- Si


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From: Grégoire Lamodière <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 7:15 AM
To: users
Subject: QEMU dirty-bitmap

Dear List,

Has anyone tried the dirty-bitmap solution to provide incremental backups on 
KVM/QEMU based CS clusters ?
The solution sounds pretty nice, but instance migration scenarios need 
additional task to copy the bitmaps.

Should we dig this subject and share, or is there any existing work on 
incremental backup for CS / KVM (using qemu bitmaps or any other feature), that 
we might join ?

Cheers.

Grégoire

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