Dear Team,

As of understanding this conversation for a long time, I request to stop 
further communication in this thread, it would be waste of time for all of us 
to engage further in this.

I see Mr.Mohhamad Mahdi Raja is neither open nor active in this thread. It 
would take a year for us to extract the information from him, in which case 
there might not be the bug or problem, he tries to explain, exists.

Lets keep our energy to support a better problem. Also please note the point he 
is just trying to get support for his argument not for fixing his problem. It 
would be useless for us to even give a solution to him, as he will never accept 
it.

Thanks,
Sujai

> On 17-Nov-2014, at 1:38 pm, Vadim Kimlaychuk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mohhamad,
> 
>          I think your words would be more valuable if you add some facts to 
> this discussions. It is really hard to understand how deep have you been 
> involved into different cloud platforms evaluation and what these platforms 
> were. It seems you haven't tried more than just "demo".
>          We have tried for ourselves CloudStack, OpenStack and onApp.  I 
> can't say any of these platform is non-problematic. As far as you try basic 
> setup you may have feeling that other platforms are better than CS, but when 
> you go to production configuration -- the hell begins. Each platform has its 
> pros and cons and for sure people will choose different ones. I have chosen 
> CS because I know JAVA better than Python and I appreciate solid-rock 
> architecture design of CS that makes scalability problems less valuable than 
> at OpenStack, for example.
>         If you would like to make business - I will suggest to split you 
> efforts and concentrate on business part.  CS installation/bug fixing and 
> other technical stuff you can buy from the professionals.  We have partners 
> that successfully make business having banks and other big companies at CS 
> cloud. They have outsourced installation and bug fixing and are pretty happy 
> with CS. 
> 
> Vadim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohammad Mahdi Raja [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Wasting Time !
> 
> Thanks for your answers,
> 
> I installed different version on different infrastructure during the time. It 
> is somehow much more unstable that other competitors. Many non-documented 
> issues and many unpredictable problems. I know that we are all here to help 
> each others to feel good about it, but I think we are wasting our times on 
> solving issues instead of doing business !
> 
> Any one disagrees ?
> 
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 12:33  PM, Osay Osman Yuuni <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Mohammed,
>> I'd be interested to know why you think Cloudstack is waiting our 
>> time?  Do you have any specific issues that need addressing that you 
>> could not?  By Cloudstack who do you actually mean?  The contributors, 
>> users, governance?
>> Unless you're able to tell us what makes you think Cloudstack is 
>> wasting our times I'm afraid I don't see how we can agree with you.
>> 
>> Osay
>> 
>> On 10 November 2014 10:54, Vihar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Was your questions not answered? Or you have issues with setting up 
>>> cloudstack?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Vihar K
>>> On Nov 10, 2014 2:19 PM, "Erik Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mohammad Mahdi Raja <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ​Dear All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does every one have the sense that CloudStack is wasting our times ?
>>>>> Unfortunately I think so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> It's probably easier to answer your feelings if you describe a bit 
>>>> more
>>> why
>>>> you're feeling that way.
>>>> 
>>>> Why is CloudStack wasting your time? How can it be improved to not 
>>>> waste your time? etc.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Erik
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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