Hello again !
Not sure it's so easy 🤔...
I've added the runTime provider, and now the build is ok, but it fails at
run time with strange exceptions about Quarkus log configuration and
properties resolution errors that break beans creation and so on...
Something is still missing ?
2025-10-20 10:54:47,653 WARN [io.qua.config] (main) Unrecognized
configuration key "quarkus.log.console.json" was provided; it will be
ignored; verify that the dependency extension for this configuration is set
or that you did not make a typo
2025-10-20 10:54:47,950 INFO [org.apa.cam.qua.cor.CamelBootstrapRecorder]
(main) Apache Camel Quarkus 3.27.0 is starting
2025-10-20 10:54:47,951 INFO [org.apa.cam.mai.MainSupport] (main) Apache
Camel (Main) 4.14.0 is starting
2025-10-20 10:54:48,267 ERROR [org.apa.cam.qua.mai.CamelMainRuntime] (main)
Failed to start application: org.apache.camel.RuntimeCamelException: Error
pre-parsing resource: file:/etc/camel/sources/camel-k-embedded-flow.yaml
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseRoute(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:629)
at
org.apache.camel.main.RoutesConfigurer.doConfigureModeline(RoutesConfigurer.java:516)
at
org.apache.camel.main.RoutesConfigurer.configureModeline(RoutesConfigurer.java:427)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.modelineRoutes(BaseMainSupport.java:830)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.autoconfigure(BaseMainSupport.java:552)
at
org.apache.camel.main.MainSupport.autoconfigure(MainSupport.java:79)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.postProcessCamelContext(BaseMainSupport.java:920)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.initCamelContext(CamelMain.java:90)
at org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.doInit(CamelMain.java:60)
at
org.apache.camel.support.service.BaseService.init(BaseService.java:85)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.startEngine(CamelMain.java:107)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMainRuntime.start(CamelMainRuntime.java:49)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.core.CamelBootstrapRecorder.start(CamelBootstrapRecorder.java:53)
at
io.quarkus.runner.recorded.CamelBootstrapProcessor$boot173480958.deploy_0(Unknown
Source)
at
io.quarkus.runner.recorded.CamelBootstrapProcessor$boot173480958.deploy(Unknown
Source)
at io.quarkus.runner.ApplicationImpl.doStart(Unknown Source)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Application.start(Application.java:101)
at
io.quarkus.runtime.ApplicationLifecycleManager.run(ApplicationLifecycleManager.java:119)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:80)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:51)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:144)
at io.quarkus.runner.GeneratedMain.main(Unknown Source)
at
io.quarkus.bootstrap.runner.QuarkusEntryPoint.doRun(QuarkusEntryPoint.java:69)
at
io.quarkus.bootstrap.runner.QuarkusEntryPoint.main(QuarkusEntryPoint.java:37)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Error creating bean: phiCamelSetup
of type: #class:io.phi.tests.camel.k.t01.c.MyCamelSetup
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer.registerBean(BeansDeserializer.java:128)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer$BeansCustomizer.configure(BeansDeserializer.java:151)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseNode(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:649)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.lambda$preParseRoute$4(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:627)
at java.base/java.util.Optional.map(Optional.java:260)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseRoute(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:627)
... 23 more
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Property with key
[phi.entity.code] not found in properties from text:
#class:io.phi.tests.camel.k.t01.c.MyCamelSetup("{{phi.entity.code}}")
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.getPropertyValue(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:413)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.readProperty(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:243)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.doParseNested(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:174)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.parse(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:121)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser.parseUri(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:73)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.PropertiesComponent.parseUri(PropertiesComponent.java:344)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.PropertiesComponent.parseUri(PropertiesComponent.java:175)
at
org.apache.camel.impl.engine.DefaultCamelContextExtension.resolvePropertyPlaceholders(DefaultCamelContextExtension.java:351)
at
org.apache.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext.resolvePropertyPlaceholders(AbstractCamelContext.java:1763)
at
org.apache.camel.support.PropertyBindingSupport.resolveBean(PropertyBindingSupport.java:1563)
at
org.apache.camel.model.BeanModelHelper.newInstance(BeanModelHelper.java:127)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer.registerBean(BeansDeserializer.java:119)
... 28 more
2025-10-20 10:54:48,338 ERROR [io.qua.run.Application] (main) Failed to
start application: java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to start quarkus
at io.quarkus.runner.ApplicationImpl.doStart(Unknown Source)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Application.start(Application.java:101)
at
io.quarkus.runtime.ApplicationLifecycleManager.run(ApplicationLifecycleManager.java:119)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:80)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:51)
at io.quarkus.runtime.Quarkus.run(Quarkus.java:144)
at io.quarkus.runner.GeneratedMain.main(Unknown Source)
at
io.quarkus.bootstrap.runner.QuarkusEntryPoint.doRun(QuarkusEntryPoint.java:69)
at
io.quarkus.bootstrap.runner.QuarkusEntryPoint.main(QuarkusEntryPoint.java:37)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException:
org.apache.camel.RuntimeCamelException: Error pre-parsing resource:
file:/etc/camel/sources/camel-k-embedded-flow.yaml
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.core.CamelBootstrapRecorder.start(CamelBootstrapRecorder.java:55)
at
io.quarkus.runner.recorded.CamelBootstrapProcessor$boot173480958.deploy_0(Unknown
Source)
at
io.quarkus.runner.recorded.CamelBootstrapProcessor$boot173480958.deploy(Unknown
Source)
... 9 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException:
org.apache.camel.RuntimeCamelException: Error pre-parsing resource:
file:/etc/camel/sources/camel-k-embedded-flow.yaml
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMainRuntime.start(CamelMainRuntime.java:65)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.core.CamelBootstrapRecorder.start(CamelBootstrapRecorder.java:53)
... 11 more
Caused by: org.apache.camel.RuntimeCamelException: Error pre-parsing
resource: file:/etc/camel/sources/camel-k-embedded-flow.yaml
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseRoute(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:629)
at
org.apache.camel.main.RoutesConfigurer.doConfigureModeline(RoutesConfigurer.java:516)
at
org.apache.camel.main.RoutesConfigurer.configureModeline(RoutesConfigurer.java:427)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.modelineRoutes(BaseMainSupport.java:830)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.autoconfigure(BaseMainSupport.java:552)
at
org.apache.camel.main.MainSupport.autoconfigure(MainSupport.java:79)
at
org.apache.camel.main.BaseMainSupport.postProcessCamelContext(BaseMainSupport.java:920)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.initCamelContext(CamelMain.java:90)
at org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.doInit(CamelMain.java:60)
at
org.apache.camel.support.service.BaseService.init(BaseService.java:85)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMain.startEngine(CamelMain.java:107)
at
org.apache.camel.quarkus.main.CamelMainRuntime.start(CamelMainRuntime.java:49)
... 12 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Error creating bean: phiCamelSetup
of type: #class:io.phi.tests.camel.k.t01.c.MyCamelSetup
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer.registerBean(BeansDeserializer.java:128)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer$BeansCustomizer.configure(BeansDeserializer.java:151)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseNode(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:649)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.lambda$preParseRoute$4(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:627)
at java.base/java.util.Optional.map(Optional.java:260)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.preParseRoute(YamlRoutesBuilderLoader.java:627)
... 23 more
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Property with key
[phi.entity.code] not found in properties from text:
#class:io.phi.tests.camel.k.t01.c.MyCamelSetup("{{phi.entity.code}}")
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.getPropertyValue(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:413)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.readProperty(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:243)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.doParseNested(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:174)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser$ParsingContext.parse(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:121)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.DefaultPropertiesParser.parseUri(DefaultPropertiesParser.java:73)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.PropertiesComponent.parseUri(PropertiesComponent.java:344)
at
org.apache.camel.component.properties.PropertiesComponent.parseUri(PropertiesComponent.java:175)
at
org.apache.camel.impl.engine.DefaultCamelContextExtension.resolvePropertyPlaceholders(DefaultCamelContextExtension.java:351)
at
org.apache.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext.resolvePropertyPlaceholders(AbstractCamelContext.java:1763)
at
org.apache.camel.support.PropertyBindingSupport.resolveBean(PropertyBindingSupport.java:1563)
at
org.apache.camel.model.BeanModelHelper.newInstance(BeanModelHelper.java:127)
at
org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.BeansDeserializer.registerBean(BeansDeserializer.java:119)
... 28 more
Le lun. 20 oct. 2025 Ã 12:40, Pasquale Congiusti <
[email protected]> a écrit :
> Hello. You also need to use `runtimeProvider: plain-quarkus` in order to
> use the regular Quarkus. Also consider that sometimes quarkus folks do a
> bom release before Camel Quarkus to be available and they include it in
> future patch releases, for example 3.27.1. See this chat thread to have
> more info about this point [1]
>
> Cheers,
> Pasquale.
>
> [1] #camel-k > ✔ Some plain-quarkus runtime versions are not available i...
> @ 💬
> <
> https://camel.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/257299-camel-k/topic/.E2.9C.94.20Some.20plain-quarkus.20runtime.20versions.20are.20not.20available.20i.2E.2E.2E/near/543670401
> >
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 12:26 PM Ephemeris Lappis <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Trying first to change at the integration level, I've an error :
> > version 3.27.0 is not found ; is it really available,since I can't see
> > it in Central ?
> >
> > My change in my it :
> >
> > traits:
> > camel:
> > runtimeVersion: 3.27.0
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Le lun. 20 oct. 2025 Ã 11:54, Pasquale Congiusti
> > <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > you will need to update your IntegrationPlatform to extend the camel
> > trait
> > > with the given runtime provider (plain-quarkus) and version (the
> quarkus
> > > version) you want to use for all your Integrations or use an
> > > IntegrationProfile accordingly. Individually you can change each of
> your
> > > Integration as shown in the doc. A Camel Quarkus runtime based on
> 4.15.0
> > is
> > > not yet available. I guess it will be sooner than later released, it
> will
> > > be publicly announced in a Camel blog post for sure. The latest one is
> > > 3.27.0 based on Camel 4.14.0 [1]
> > >
> > > Pasquale.
> > >
> > > [1] https://camel.apache.org/blog/2025/09/camel-quarkus-3.27.0/
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:00 AM Ephemeris Lappis <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your explanations. I'm looking at how it could be possible
> > > > to upgrade my 2.8.0 camel-k operator to use a Camel 4.15.0, but it
> > > > doesn't seem so easy... Do you confirm ?
> > > > Is the 2.9.0 available in any way ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > Le lun. 20 oct. 2025 Ã 09:34, Pasquale Congiusti
> > > > <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > related to your original problem, it is a bug in the Camel core
> [1].
> > As
> > > > for
> > > > > the auto detection, it also seems to be a bug, but on Camel K side
> > [2].
> > > > > Finally, if you want to use any more recent Camel version on Camel
> K,
> > > > > you're invited to move to `plain-quarkus` runtime provider [3]
> which
> > will
> > > > > begin standard in the future version of Camel K.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Pasquale.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-22571
> > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-k/issues/6336
> > > > > [3]
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://camel.apache.org/camel-k/next/running/running.html#_runtime_provider
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 9:24 AM Ephemeris Lappis <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know what JBang exactly does, but our current goal is to
> > > > > > evaluate the opportunity to use Camel-K and it's strong
> integration
> > > > > > with K8s, and have a convergent way of managing applications,
> both
> > our
> > > > > > Camel ESB exchange system and front-back applications. All our
> > > > > > development and devops ecosystem is based on k8s, helm and so on,
> > > > > > except our Camel works that are still based on a Karaf runtime
> > (even
> > > > > > if it's running as a k8s pod) and hand made tooling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know an easy way to upgrade the Camel version (and
> > > > > > Camel-k/Quarkus runtime) ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le sam. 18 oct. 2025 Ã 11:53, Claus Ibsen <[email protected]
> >
> > a
> > > > écrit
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ah okay so if you run via camel-k and often dependencies are
> not
> > > > > > > automatically detected, so you need to add them manually in the
> > file.
> > > > > > > Using pure camel using camel-jbang offers a better experience
> for
> > > > this
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > is much more actively developed these days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 11:25 AM Ephemeris Lappis <
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My last message was rejected yesterday. I don't know why... I
> > don't
> > > > > > > > understand why the code was not in the previous one...
> > Strange. I
> > > > put
> > > > > > > > the whole integration yaml in attachment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > About the Camel version : it is pre-integrated with Camel-K
> > 2.8.0
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > its Camel-K Runtime, and I'm not sure I could easily change
> it
> > for
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > more recent one...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope this time you can read.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Le ven. 17 oct. 2025 Ã 18:47, Claus Ibsen <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > a
> > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We cannot see your code.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And if you really use an old 4.8.5 camel version, then try
> > with
> > > > > > > > > newer releases like 4.14.x or 4.15.0.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 6:09 PM Ephemeris Lappis <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've seen that the data format for beanio is back with
> > Camel 4.
> > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create a route in a Camel-K yaml
> Integration
> > > > file,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > an exception.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It seems that the component is not able to take a string
> to
> > > > create
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > Charset object :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > org.apache.camel.RuntimeCamelException:
> > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.camel.NoTypeConversionAvailableException: No
> > type
> > > > > > > > converter
> > > > > > > > > > > available to convert from type: java.lang.String to the
> > > > required
> > > > > > > > type:
> > > > > > > > > > > java.nio.charset.Charset
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The route is like :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If I remove the encoding, all works as expected since my
> > system
> > > > > > > > charset is
> > > > > > > > > > UTF-8.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What's wrong with my yaml ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've also noticed that the beanio data format is not
> > > > automatically
> > > > > > > > added as
> > > > > > > > > > a dependency just like the json that I also use in the
> same
> > > > > > > > Integration.
> > > > > > > > > > Why ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Claus Ibsen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Claus Ibsen
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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