while performing XML route, route needs to be explicitly associated
with configuration to use it.

<route routeConfigurationId="xmlError">

Example on 
https://camel.apache.org/manual/route-configuration.html#_route_configuration_in_xml
works.

I think the gap is - when defining a framework based on camel - how to
associate specific routeconfigurations to all routes.

ચિરાગ/चिराग/Chirag
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:27 AM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I also created an issue for this with an example:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-17953
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 9:25 AM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, based on the link Claus send:
> >
> > https://camel.apache.org/manual/route-configuration.html
> >
> > There is an example of how to do it in Java and how to add it to the
> > CamelContext. There is also an example of how to do it with XML:
> >
> > <routeConfiguration id="xmlError">
> >     <onException>
> >         <exception>java.lang.Exception</exception>
> >         <handled><constant>true</constant></handled>
> >         <log message="XML WARN: ${exception.message}"/>
> >     </onException></routeConfiguration>
> >
> >
> > But there is nothing about how to add this to the CamelContext. I assumed
> > I need to do this through the RoutesLoader (the same as a normal route).
> > Note I add routes as String to the RoutesLoader. However this doesn't seem
> > to work.
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 11:38 PM Chirag <chirag.sangh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Raymond,
> >>
> >> to summarise:
> >> You want to load route configuration using XML?
> >>
> >> ચિરાગ/चिराग/Chirag
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> Sent from My Gmail Account
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 7:59 AM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Loading the routeconfiguration through:
> >> >
> >> > loader.loadRoutes(resource);
> >> >
> >> > also doesn't work. Directly from Java is no problem. Is this a bug or
> >> > should the XML RouteConfiguration loaded differently?
> >> >
> >> > Raymond
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:26 PM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > As a note:
> >> > >
> >> > > When when using the routeConfiguration from Java and load it:
> >> > >
> >> > > public class MyJavaErrorHandler extends RouteConfigurationBuilder {
> >> > >
> >> > >     @Override
> >> > >     public void configuration() throws Exception {
> >> > >         routeConfiguration("xmlError")
> >> > >             .onException(Exception.class).handled(true)
> >> > >             .log("Java WARN: ${exception.message}");
> >> > >     }
> >> > > }
> >> > >
> >> > > context.addRoutes(new MyJavaErrorHandler());
> >> > >
> >> > > then it works as expected. Thus, it must be because of the way the
> >> > > routeconfiguration was loaded. I loaded it using:
> >> > >
> >> > > loader.updateRoutes(resource);
> >> > >
> >> > > I assumed it worked similar to the old "addOrUpdateXml" method as it
> >> says
> >> > >
> >> > > "Loads or updates existing RoutesBuilder". However it works
> >> differently
> >> > > (at least for RouteConfiguration). When changing the
> >> > > routeConfiguration to:
> >> > >
> >> > > loader.loadRoutes(resource);
> >> > >
> >> > > then it worked.
> >> > >
> >> > > Raymond
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:13 PM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Yes, with the try-catch-finally clause one can have more
> >> fine-grained.
> >> > >> However, I am not the one who writes the routes. I am only loading
> >> them.
> >> > >> That's why I need a more generic behavior (errorHandler) with some
> >> > >> configuration options (routeConfiguration).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I assumed that the XML routeConfiguration can be loaded the same as a
> >> > >> 'normal' xml route. I loaded the following:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> <routeConfiguration id="xmlError">
> >> > >>     <onException>
> >> > >>         <exception>java.lang.Exception</exception>
> >> > >>         <handled><constant>true</constant></handled>
> >> > >>         <log message="XML WARN: ${exception.message}"/>
> >> > >>     </onException></routeConfiguration>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And then the route:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> <route routeConfigurationId="xmlError">
> >> > >>     <from uri="timer:xml?period=5s"/>
> >> > >>     <log message="I am XML"/>
> >> > >>     <throwException exceptionType="java.lang.Exception"
> >> message="Some kind of XML error"/></route>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I see the error thrown "Some kind of XML error", but I don't see it
> >> > >> handled (for example the XML WARN message). Is there something that
> >> I am
> >> > >> missing?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Raymond
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:06 PM Chirag <chirag.sangh...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> You could wrap it using try/catch.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> See:  https://camel.apache.org/manual/try-catch-finally.html
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> My experience with it is - it depends on the endpoint involved to
> >> > >>> throw exceptions and enter doCatch appropriately.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> ચિરાગ/चिराग/Chirag
> >> > >>> ------------------------------------------
> >> > >>> Sent from My Gmail Account
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:10 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Hi
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > See routes configuration
> >> > >>> > https://camel.apache.org/manual/route-configuration.html
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 4:30 PM ski n <raymondmees...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > I am indeed using Camel 3 (Currently 3.14.2) and using Maven. I
> >> just
> >> > >>> use
> >> > >>> > > plain Java (camel core), so I have a similar setup as your
> >> example
> >> > >>> (only
> >> > >>> > > I'm using Java, instead of the application.properties to
> >> configure
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > Camel context and its routes). Your example helped me to also
> >> use
> >> > >>> the Yaml
> >> > >>> > > dsl.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > I am still wondering how to do proper errorHandling/onException
> >> with
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > routesloader.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > I can set for example the errorHandler globally:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > extendedCamelContext.setErrorHandlerFactory(routeErrorHandler);
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > But I rather set it per route / per exception (and best of all
> >> from
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> > > xml/yaml files). Like it used to be done like this:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >   <camelContext id="myCamelContext" xmlns="
> >> > >>> > > http://camel.apache.org/schema/spring";>
> >> > >>> > >     <!-- Catch the authorization exception and set the Access
> >> Denied
> >> > >>> > > message back -->
> >> > >>> > >     <onException>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>>  <exception>org.apache.camel.CamelAuthorizationException</exception>
> >> > >>> > >       <handled>
> >> > >>> > >         <constant>true</constant>
> >> > >>> > >       </handled>
> >> > >>> > >       <transform>
> >> > >>> > >         <simple>Access Denied with the Policy of
> >> > >>> ${exception.policyId}
> >> > >>> > > !</simple>
> >> > >>> > >       </transform>
> >> > >>> > >     </onException>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >     <route>
> >> > >>> > >       <from uri="servlet:user"/>
> >> > >>> > >       <!-- wrap the route in the policy which enforces security
> >> > >>> check -->
> >> > >>> > >       <policy ref="user">
> >> > >>> > >         <transform>
> >> > >>> > >           <simple>Normal user can access this service</simple>
> >> > >>> > >         </transform>
> >> > >>> > >       </policy>
> >> > >>> > >     </route>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >     <route>
> >> > >>> > >       <from uri="servlet:admin"/>
> >> > >>> > >       <!-- wrap the route in the policy which enforces security
> >> > >>> check -->
> >> > >>> > >       <policy ref="admin">
> >> > >>> > >         <transform>
> >> > >>> > >           <simple>Call the admin operation OK</simple>
> >> > >>> > >         </transform>
> >> > >>> > >       </policy>
> >> > >>> > >     </route>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >   </camelContext>
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > But such files are not accepted by the routesLoader.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > I also tried setting the error handler on a specific route from
> >> Java
> >> > >>> like
> >> > >>> > > this:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Route route = context.getRoute(myRouteId);
> >> > >>> > > route.setErrorHandlerFactory(routeErrorHandler);
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > But that didn't change anything.
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > Raymond
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 3:36 PM Chirag <
> >> chirag.sangh...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > > > Hello Raymond,
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > Are you trying to use Camel 3 ?
> >> > >>> > > > Would you use Maven or Gradle to build?
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > Here is an example:
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>>
> >> https://github.com/chiragsanghavi/camel-experiments/tree/main/processor
> >> > >>> > > > if this helps.
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > This example was built to demonstrate a bug- but if you update
> >> > >>> maven
> >> > >>> > > > to use camel 3.1.5 - it should work.
> >> > >>> > > > Only thing needed to support YAML is a change in pom.xml to
> >> include
> >> > >>> > > > yaml dsl and create yaml files and put them into "routes"
> >> folder.
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > <dependency>
> >> > >>> > > > <groupId>org.apache.camel</groupId>
> >> > >>> > > > <artifactId>camel-yaml-dsl</artifactId>
> >> > >>> > > > </dependency>
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > ચિરાગ/चिराग/Chirag
> >> > >>> > > > ------------------------------------------
> >> > >>> > > > Sent from My Gmail Account
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:15 AM ski n <
> >> raymondmees...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > Hi All,
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > I like to use the routesLoader (
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>>
> >> https://javadoc.io/static/org.apache.camel/camel-api/3.16.0/org/apache/camel/spi/annotations/RoutesLoader.html
> >> > >>> > > > > ).
> >> > >>> > > > > I have some questions about how to properly use it.
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > 1) Is there any documentation on how to use it? (At
> >> > >>> > > > > https://camel.apache.org/manual/ or
> >> > >>> > > > > https://camel.apache.org/components/next/index.html).
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > 2) I could find some examples (
> >> > >>> https://github.com/apache/camel-examples
> >> > >>> > > > ),
> >> > >>> > > > > there the routesloader example says:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > <!--
> >> > >>> > > > >     if you want to have multiple routes, you can either have
> >> > >>> multiple
> >> > >>> > > > files
> >> > >>> > > > > with 1 <route> per file or
> >> > >>> > > > >     you can use <routes> as root tag, such as
> >> > >>> > > > > <routes><route>...</route><route>...</route></routes>
> >> > >>> > > > > -->
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > <route>
> >> > >>> > > > >     <from uri="timer:xml?period=5s"/>
> >> > >>> > > > >     <log message="I am XML"/>
> >> > >>> > > > > </route>
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > These examples loads xml, can it also loads other DSL's?
> >> (Like
> >> > >>> yaml or
> >> > >>> > > > > Java).
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > 3) How to use OnException with the RouteLoader?
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > I thought maybe like this
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > <routes xmlns="http://camel.apache.org/schema/spring";>
> >> > >>> > > > > <onException>
> >> > >>> > > > >  <exception>java.lang.Exception</exception>
> >> > >>> > > > >  <redeliveryPolicy maximumRedeliveries="0"
> >> > >>> redeliveryDelay="5000"/>
> >> > >>> > > > >  <handled><constant>true</constant></handled>
> >> > >>> > > > >  <toD uri="file://some/directory"/>
> >> > >>> > > > > </onException>
> >> > >>> > > > > <route>
> >> > >>> > > > > <from uri="timer:xml?period=5s"/>
> >> > >>> > > > > <log message="I am XML"/>
> >> > >>> > > > > </route>
> >> > >>> > > > > </routes>
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > But this gave me a nullpointer exception.
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > 4) Load from string directly
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > In Camel 2 you could load routes directly from string like
> >> this:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > ManagedCamelContext managed =
> >> > >>> > > > > context.getExtension(ManagedCamelContext.class);
> >> > >>> > > > > managedContext = managed.getManagedCamelContext();
> >> > >>> > > > > managedContext.addOrUpdateRoutesFromXml(routeAsString);
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > In Camel 3 the "addOrUpdateRoutesFromXml" is depracated.
> >> With
> >> > >>> routeLoader
> >> > >>> > > > > from string I do it like this:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > ExtendedCamelContext extendedCamelContext =
> >> > >>> > > > > context.adapt(ExtendedCamelContext.class);
> >> > >>> > > > > RoutesLoader loader =
> >> extendedCamelContext.getRoutesLoader();
> >> > >>> > > > > Resource resource = ResourceHelper.fromString("any.xml",
> >> route);
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > loader.updateRoutes(resource);
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > Is this the only way in Camel 3, or is there also a specific
> >> > >>> method to
> >> > >>> > > > use
> >> > >>> > > > > strings directly (and maybe only specify the DSL used) like:
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > loader.updateRoutes(routeAsString, "xml");
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > >
> >> > >>> > > > > Raymond
> >> > >>> > > >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > --
> >> > >>> > Claus Ibsen
> >> > >>> > -----------------
> >> > >>> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> >> > >>> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >>
> >

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