Hi Claus,

Thanks for your reply! I've tried using parallelProcessing and it comes with a 
few drawbacks as I've mentioned already. We're going with it as a workaround 
but I'm interested to know whether you consider the issue I've reported to be a 
bug.

Do you believe that it is intentional/expected that by default the 
AggregateProcessor *holds a mutual exclusion lock* across all downstream 
processing, by default? It's really very unexpected to me, and the docs you 
link to make no mention of acquiring a lock over other code unrelated to the 
aggregation. As a user of a framework, one needs to know if a framework is 
going to acquire a mutual exclusion lock over my code, in order to reason about 
the parallelism. 

Importantly - are there any other processors which acquire a lock over all 
downstream processing?

Barış


On 18 Sep 2013, at 11:54, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> See the parallelProcessing / executorService option on the aggregator
> http://camel.apache.org/aggregator2
> 
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Baris Acar <ba...@acar.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm seeing some surprising behaviour with my camel route, and was hoping
>> someone in this group could help, as my trawl through the docs and Camel In
>> Action book have not found the answers I'm looking for. Apologies if this
>> question has been clearly answered elsewhere :-/
>> 
>> I have a route that looks a little like the following:
>> 
>>    from("seda:foo?concurrentConsumers=2")
>>      .aggregate(header("myId"), myAggregationStrategy).completionSize(5)
>>        .log("Sending out ${body} after a short pause...")
>>        .delay(3000) // simulate a lengthy process
>>        .log("Sending out ${body} imminently!")
>>        .to(...) // other downstream processing
>> 
>> Note that I'm using a SEDA with two *concurrent* consumers. I expected that
>> once a SEDA consumer thread has picked up a message that completes an
>> aggregation, that downstream processing will continue on that consumer
>> thread, whilst other such downstream processing for another 'completed
>> aggregation' message may be happening in parallel on the other SEDA
>> consumer thread.
>> 
>> What I'm finding instead is that whilst all of the work downstream of
>> aggregate() does occur across the two consumer threads, it is serialised;
>> no two threads execute the processors at the same time. This becomes quite
>> noticeable if this downstream work is lengthy. I've uploaded a sample to
>> https://github.com/bacar/aggregator-lock, which you can run with mvn test
>> -Dtest=AggregateLock. It started from a sample from the CIA book.
>> 
>> For example, you can see the whilst the second "Sending... after a short
>> pause" does occur on a separate thread (#2), it does not start until after
>> thread #1 has completed, despite the 3s delay():
>> 
>> 2013-09-18 00:45:15,693 [el-1) thread #1 - Threads] INFO  route1 - Sending
>> out aggregated [1:0, 1:1, 1:2, 1:3, 1:4] after a short pause...
>> 2013-09-18 00:45:18,695 [el-1) thread #1 - Threads] INFO  route1 - Sending
>> out aggregated [1:0, 1:1, 1:2, 1:3, 1:4] imminently!
>> 2013-09-18 00:45:18,696 [el-1) thread #2 - Threads] INFO  route1 - Sending
>> out aggregated [0:0, 0:1, 0:2, 0:3, 0:4] after a short pause...
>> 2013-09-18 00:45:21,698 [el-1) thread #2 - Threads] INFO  route1 - Sending
>> out aggregated [0:0, 0:1, 0:2, 0:3, 0:4] imminently!
>> 
>> Is this behaviour expected? I found it _very_ surprising. Did I miss
>> something in the docs that describes this behaviour? If the behaviour is
>> expected, I am happy to try adding some info to the documentation if
>> someone can explain the intent behind it.
>> 
>> I'm not terribly familiar with the code, but I've had a dig around, and it
>> looks like the reason for this behaviour is due to the following code
>> inside the process() method of
>> org.apache.camel.processor.aggregate.AggregateProcessor:
>> 
>>            lock.lock();
>>            try {
>>                doAggregation(key, copy);
>>            } finally {
>>                lock.unlock();
>>            }
>> 
>> The doAggregation() method performs both the aggregation (i.e., adding the
>> new exchange to the repository, checking if the completion criteria have
>> been met etc) _and_, if complete, submits the aggregated message to the
>> ExecutorService for downstream processing. However, since the default
>> executorService is the SynchronousExecutorService, all downstream
>> processing occurs synchronously with submission, and consequently, _within_
>> the lock above.
>> 
>> Whilst I can see obvious reasons that may make it necessary to perform the
>> actual aggregation inside a lock, I do find it quite surprising that the
>> downstream processing by default also occurs inside this lock. Are there
>> any other processors known to behave in this way, i.e., by taking a lock
>> around all downstream processing?
>> 
>> I could potentially work around this issue by dispensing with the SEDA
>> concurrentConsumers and using aggregate().parallelProcessing() instead,
>> with a suitable executorService() specified, but this introduces a number
>> of complications, e.g.:
>> - if I repeatedly split() and re-aggregate() (by different criteria), then
>> _every time_ I aggregate I have to add
>> parallelProcessing()/executorService(); this is verbose and error prone.
>> - with repeated aggregates in a route, I need dedicated threads/pools per
>> aggregate(), which means way more threads than I really want/need.
>> - regardless, I don't get the predictable and simple behaviour I expected
>> of 'pick up job from SEDA, aggregate, synchronously process downstream
>> jobs' that I'd expected.
>> 
>> Another possible workaround might be the optimistic locking, but I haven't
>> had the opportunity to study it yet. It seems unrelated - I think my
>> problem is with the very coarse granularity of the pessimistic lock, not
>> with whether it's optimistic. Plus, I don't really want my messages to ever
>> fail with a 'too many attempts to acquire the optimistic lock' exception,
>> and I might have quite high contention).
>> 
>> Many thanks in advance for your help/comments!
>> 
>> Baris.
> 
> 
> 
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