I'm not terribly familiar with this module. It was added 10 years or so ago and hasn't been touched (or apparently used) much since. It's hard to say why artemis-jms-client was included originally, but the core broker has no strict dependency on anything specific to JMS. I think both the artemis-jms-client and artemis-jms-broker dependency could be removed. The org.apache.activemq.artemis.osgi.OsgiBroker would need a slight update, but I don't think removing that stuff would have any functional impact.
I don't know enough about how people use this stuff to know what changes make sense. I've never used Apache Karaf. I'm more than happy to work with you to get this into better shape if you like. Let me know what you think! Justin On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Stefan Sämgård <[email protected]> wrote: > We are using the artemis-server-osgi since it includes the blueprint > starter in it and we want to use it in apache karaf. > That one is pulling in javax.jms package through artemis-jms-client > dependency. > > So several questions arise for us here: > 1) Why do the artemis-server-osgi have a dependency to a client library, > it seems to work fine without it? > 2) And if it is necessary to include it, could there maybe be an osgi > option like artemis-server-jakarta-osgi. Like the artemis-jakarta-server? > > Some additional information: > dependency from pom.xml in artemis-server-osgi project/library > artemis-jms-client which is built with the pom from artemis-jms-client > project/library > In artemis-jms-client we can find this dependency: > jakarta.jms-api which uses the version from parent pom > jakarta.jms-api.version 2.0.3 - which is using javax.jms (this is what is > causing us the problem) > > > Environment that we have: > activemq artemis 2.43.0 - hosted inside apache karaf > apache karaf 4.4.8 > apache camel 4.10.5 > > > > Best Regards, > Stefan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Bertram <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 31 October 2025 14:17 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Jms client in artemis with karaf > > [Du får inte e-post ofta från [email protected]. Läs om varför det här > är viktigt på https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > What library/dependency are you using for ActiveMQConnectionFactory? I ask > because we ship 2 different dependencies with this class - > artemis-jms-client & artemis-jakarta-client. The former is based on javax; > the latter is based on jakarta. It sounds to me like you're using the wrong > one for your use-case. See this documentation [1] for more details. > > > Justin > > [1] > > https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/client-classpath.html#the-client-classpath > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 2:50 AM Stefan Sämgård <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > We are using the artemis feature in apache karaf (OSGi) In the same > > apache karaf we are also using apache camel 4+ Apache camel has fully > > moved to jakarta namespace we think. > > > > Which means that when we are setting up a jms client with apache camel > > jms library we need to use a jakarta.jms interface. Right now we are > > using the > > class: > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory > > > > In OSGi compatible mode, this class returns a javax.jms interface > > rather than a jakarta.jms Are there any plans in the for upgrading the > > jakarta.jms from 2.0.3 to jakarta.jms 3+ dependencies? > > > > Best Regards, > > Stefan Sämgård > > CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE | Industri-Matematik > > International AB This e-mail, including any attachments, is > > confidential and intended only for the addressee. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately > > and delete this e-mail from your system. > > Any use or disclosure of the information contained here in is strictly > > prohibited. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact > >
