WildFly 10 was released almost 10 years ago and it contains ActiveMQ
Artemis 1.1.0. This is why it's not sending back the "configurationManaged"
flag.

I opened ARTEMIS-5596 [1] to deal with this. In the meantime your options
are:

  1. Downgrade your client to 2.17.0.
  2. Upgrade the broker to 2.18.0.


Justin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-5596

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:02 AM Philip <philip.pi...@protonmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

>
> You are indeed correct that I am using an old broker (Wildfly 10).
>
> I am unable to provide a complete demo project as this would be more
> complex than it is worth.
> I have created a GitHub repository in which the general JMS setup is
> duplicated with a description of the rest of the setup and the issue at
> hand.
> https://github.com/PinkMoustacheMan/spring-artemis-issue-test
>
> I hope this explains the issue better than my previous mails.
>
> Philip
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 28th, 2025 at 06:14, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Do you have a sample project or anything that we can use to reproduce
> what
> > you're seeing? At this point, the only way I can see how you might be
> > getting null there is if you were using a newer client with an older
> > broker, but it's certainly possible I'm not seeing all the possibilities.
> > Regardless, it looks like you're hitting a bug and I need a way to
> > reproduce it in order to fix it. Even a clear, concise description of the
> > steps necessary to reproduce the issue (i.e. no code) would go a long way
> > here.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 11:33 PM Philip philip.pi...@protonmail.com
> .invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I should have been more clear about my exact setup.
> > >
> > > I am trying to create multiple consumers that either listen to a JMS
> queue
> > > or a JMS topic.
> > > Each consumer listening to a queue has no client ID as it is not
> needed.
> > > Each consumer listening to a topic has both a client ID (the same one
> for
> > > all consumers)
> > > and a subscription name (unique per consumer) configured.
> > >
> > > The queues and topics are all hosted within an external application
> server
> > > that I am connecting to.
> > > All of this works perfectly until I try to change the subscription
> name of
> > > one of the topic consumers.
> > >
> > > I believe this issue stems from the fact that they are durable
> > > subscribers, which leads my
> > > application server to store them persistently.
> > > After changing the subscription name, the ActiveMQSession is aware of
> the
> > > fact that it has changed
> > > and I run into the second part of this if-statement because no
> > > short-circuiting occurs.
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/98d792d135dacb8fc567bc514f42a40d91c0657b/artemis-jms-client/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/jms/client/ActiveMQSession.java#L1002
> > >
> > > I am trying to understand why the choice was made to have this
> > > `configurationManaged` property be
> > > nullable as it leads to an issue where the null value is attempted to
> be
> > > inverted which leads to an exception.
> > >
> > > I am using ActiveMQ Artemis 2.40.0
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 26th, 2025 at 20:18, Justin Bertram
> jbert...@apache.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The simplest way to investigate is with code that reproduces the
> problem.
> > > > Do you have a sample project or anything that we can use to reproduce
> > > > what
> > > > you're seeing?
> > > >
> > > > Also, what version of ActiveMQ Artemis are you using on the broker
> and
> > > > the
> > > > client?
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, can you clarify your use-case? It seems you're trying to
> create
> > > > multiple different durable subscriptions using the same client ID and
> > > > subscription name on the same topic. Is that correct?
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 12:59 PM Philip philip.pi...@protonmail.com
> > > > .invalid
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello ActiveMQ users,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am writing this with square eyes and a tired mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to do an (assumedly) simple thing within my Spring Boot
> > > > > application, but I keep failing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to be able to define JmsListener endpoints that may either
> be
> > > > > listening to queues or topics.
> > > > > In order to achieve that I want to provide different configurations
> > > > > that
> > > > > e.g. make it so that the underlying connection is durable.
> > > > >
> > > > > All seems to go well until - in the deepest depths of ActiveMQ - a
> > > > > consumer is attempted to be constructed.
> > > > > A request is sent to (presumably) check if the Topic can be reached
> > > > > using
> > > > > the provided configuration (url, username, password).
> > > > > The initial response seems fine, until this dreaded line is reached
> > > > > and my
> > > > > world starts to crumble.
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/98d792d135dacb8fc567bc514f42a40d91c0657b/artemis-jms-client/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/jms/client/ActiveMQSession.java#L1002
> > >
> > > > > Because as it turns out, this `result.isConfigurationManaged()`
> > > > > statement
> > > > > returns `null` and an Exception is thrown when trying to invert it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to understand what I need to do for this value to be
> set
> > > > > (or
> > > > > if this value is not supposed to be set and this is indeed a bug).
> > > > >
> > > > > On another (connected) note, this check seems to only happen
> because
> > > > > the
> > > > > `selectorChanged` flag is true.
> > > > > I don't quite understand what it has changed from (or at least how
> the
> > > > > `oldFilterString` is even able to be set to a value in the first
> place
> > > > > when
> > > > > the consumer that is constructed is the first an only one).
> > > > >
> > > > > I am assuming this is in some way connected to this javadoc
> comment,
> > > > > but I
> > > > > cannot figure out how to combat this issue.
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/98d792d135dacb8fc567bc514f42a40d91c0657b/artemis-jms-client/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/jms/client/ActiveMQSession.java#L983-L988
> > >
> > > > > I hope I was able to somewhat explain my disarrayed thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,Philip
> > >
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