That does help some. The issue I am working on resolving is duplicate messages that arise in a Network-of-Brokers when the data/message is sent out of ActiveMQ to a third-party system using Camel.
The Camel web site states that there are certain instances where a duplicate message could be sent and should be accounted for so there are not multiple transactions for the same request. The idea is to use an in-memory idempotent server due to it being fast and share this across all of the ActiveMQ brokers. The Camel idempotent information is listed here, Idempotent Consumer :: Apache Camel<https://camel.apache.org/components/4.10.x/eips/idempotentConsumer-eip.html> My idea is to use the message ID due to this being unique for each message. Jason Jackson Senior Manager Main Office: 703-639-0709 Direct: 202-888-3973 Cellular: 863-370-5324 Fax: 571-431-7618 www.itechag.com<http://www.itechag.com/> [cid:8caa438c-6eba-4c80-8ece-ddf5805fea56] ________________________________ From: Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@apache.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2025 1:42 PM To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache ActiveMQ Classic Idempotency Using Apache Cassandra CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jason- A couple of recommendations for idempotent consumers: 1. The idempotent store should be the same as the target store for the consumer. Anything else is creating yet-another-hop. 2. Insert a record of the message id to the idempotent store (aka inbox pattern) and then continue to insert record into the primary store if it does not already exist. Silently continue of the message id has already been exists. 3. Keep in mind that message id is unique by messageId+destination when designing the idempotent store. Multiple destinations may receive the same messageId. Ie. Multiple subscribers to the same message flow. Hope this helps, Matt Pavlovich > On May 27, 2025, at 12:04 PM, Jason Jackson > <jason.jack...@itechag.com.INVALID> wrote: > > I am using Cassandra in place of the local file, in-memory, etc, that is > built into ActiveMQ for Idempotentcy. > > ActiveMQ Classic is being used as the default messaging platform along with > the built-in Camel components. There are certain instances where Camel can > send duplicate data; to prevent the duplicate data from being sent you have > to implement Idempotentcy that way it is filtered out. > > I am using it within Spring along with my ActiveMQ and Camel configuration > setting. > > I will leave this information here but also reach out to the Cassandra > community. > > Thank you. > > > Jason > > > ________________________________ > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2025 11:35 AM > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Apache ActiveMQ Classic Idempotency Using Apache Cassandra > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > Can you clarify your use-case? > > Are you attempting to use Apache Cassandra as the storage mechanism for > ActiveMQ Classic? If so, you'll need to implement a Cassandra-based > persistence adapter since it doesn't provide a JDBC driver or other means > of integration. It's possible such an adapter already exists, but the best > information I could find [1] references a defunct project [2] that hasn't > been updated in 15 years. > > If you're simply trying to start an instance of Cassandra via Spring and > use it from your application along with ActiveMQ Classic I think the > Cassandra community would be a better resource for you. I don't see > anything directly related to ActiveMQ in your question. > > > Justin > > [1] > 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<jason.jack...@itechag.com.invalid> wrote: > >> I am working on using Idempotency within ActiveMQ Classic using Apache >> Cassandra as my DB. >> >> I have the following jar files that are loaded with ActiveMQ: >> >> camel-cassandraql-4.10.4.jar >> cassandra-driver-core-3.10.0.jar >> java-driver-core-4.17.0.jar >> java-driver-shaded.guava-25.1-jre-graal-sub-1.jar >> native-protocol-1.5.1.jar >> >> Using documentation and information on the following Spring sites I >> believe I have been able to understand some of the components that need to >> be loaded in the Spring XML file. >> >> >> 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>>>> >> >> </beans> >> >> >> As soon as I begin adding any of the the Cassandra confiuration settings >> listed under the XML Configuration settings in either link I receive one of >> the following errors in my log file that states the following: >> >> >> WARN | DTD/XSD XML entity [ >> 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>> not >> found, falling back to remote https resolution | >> org.springframework.beans.factory.xml.ResourceEntityResolver | main >> >> >> WARN | DTD/XSD XML entity [ >> 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