Hi All,

I also reproduced this case.
When the setting config-delete-addresses is set to FORCE on the particular
address match with wildcard (not matches with cluster address/queue names),
when undeploying this address, cluster queues are also deleted.
This does not happen if I set only config-delete-queues to FORCE. Only
config-delete-address has an effect.

It is also strange because config-delete-addresses setting specifies which
addresses broker should delete, not queues.




пн, 25 нояб. 2024 г. в 14:51, Jean-Pascal Briquet <jpdigit...@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> I have found simple reproduction scenarios for cluster-connection failure
> and related message loss.
> All is documented in details under
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-5086
>
> In short, configuration must have FORCE on config-delete-addresses/
> config-delete-queues.
> When the configuration is refreshed and if an address (with force deletion)
> is removed from configuration, then "Remote binding" queues are deleted at
> the same time as the "Local binding" queue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Pascal
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 3:01 PM Alexander Milovidov <milovid...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > I also had this message in the logs. There were also two other queues
> with
> > addresses which had been removed from configuration and undeployed during
> > this configuration reload.
> >
> > The possible scenario to reproduce is:
> > - create a cluster with 2 active nodes;
> > - create two broker.xml files, one with only default addresses/queues,
> > other with approx. 3000 addresses with queues;
> > - the configuration file should include all types of objects (addresses,
> > anycast and multicast queues);
> > - cycle between these two configurations to deploy/undeploy addresses and
> > queues - copy configuration file 1 or 2 to the broker.xml;
> > - wait for the period needed to reload the configuration and repeat for
> > each file.
> >
> > I'm not sure it will be reproduced because products in the test lab
> usually
> > work as designed.
> > Also it is possible to continuously send/receive messages to some queues
> > during the entire test to make the test to be closer to the real.
> >
> > пт, 22 нояб. 2024 г. в 23:41, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > At this point I don't see how this could happen unless the relevant
> > > address-setting had FORCE for the configDeleteQueues or
> > > configDeleteAddresses. This code has been essentially the same for the
> > last
> > > 5 years or so.
> > >
> > > Do you have a way to reproduce this?
> > >
> > > Do you also see this logging?
> > >
> > >   AMQ224076 Undeploying address...
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 4:31 PM Alexander Milovidov <
> > milovid...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Justin,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > I will define cluster addresses and queues in the configuration.
> > Usually
> > > we
> > > > don't clean Artemis data on production servers, and IDs of the nodes
> > > remain
> > > > the same.
> > > >
> > > > > Can you invoke the "getAddressSettingsAsJSON" management method on
> > the
> > > > ActiveMQServerControl passing in "$.artemis.internal.sf.#" as the
> match
> > > > and provide the output here?
> > > >
> > > > {
> > > >     "addressFullMessagePolicy": "PAGE",
> > > >     "maxSizeBytes": 524288000,
> > > >     "pageSizeBytes": 10485760,
> > > >     "maxDeliveryAttempts": 10,
> > > >     "messageCounterHistoryDayLimit": 10,
> > > >     "redeliveryDelay": 0,
> > > >     "deadLetterAddress": "DLQ",
> > > >     "minExpiryDelay": 1000,
> > > >     "maxExpiryDelay": 2592000000,
> > > >     "redistributionDelay": 1000,
> > > >     "slowConsumerThresholdMeasurementUnit": "MESSAGES_PER_SECOND",
> > > >     "autoCreateQueues": true,
> > > >     "autoDeleteQueues": false,
> > > >     "autoDeleteCreatedQueues": false,
> > > >     "configDeleteQueues": "OFF",
> > > >     "autoCreateAddresses": true,
> > > >     "autoDeleteAddresses": false,
> > > >     "configDeleteAddresses": "OFF",
> > > >     "managementBrowsePageSize": 200,
> > > >     "autoCreateDeadLetterResources": true,
> > > >     "deadLetterQueuePrefix": "DLQ.",
> > > >     "managementMessageAttributeSizeLimit": 10000
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > (formatted for better reading)
> > > >
> > > > чт, 21 нояб. 2024 г. в 20:01, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > > There are no address settings like autoDeleteQueues,
> > > > > autoDeleteCreatedQueues, configDeleteQueues etc. I wonder how could
> > > this
> > > > > happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you invoke the "getAddressSettingsAsJSON" management method on
> > the
> > > > > ActiveMQServerControl [1] passing in "$.artemis.internal.sf.#" as
> the
> > > > match
> > > > > and provide the output here?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/javadocs/javadoc-latest/org/apache/activemq/artemis/api/core/management/ActiveMQServerControl.html#getAddressSettingsAsJSON(java.lang.String)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 3:41 AM Alexander Milovidov <
> > > > milovid...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have Artemis cluster with two primary / backups, and it worked
> > > > > normally
> > > > > > before. Suddenly, the cluster queue was undeployed on one of the
> > > > cluster
> > > > > > nodes during reload of the broker configuration. There was a log
> > > > message
> > > > > > with event id AMQ224077 Undeploying queue
> > > > > > $.artemis.internal.sf.cluster-name.cluster-node-uuid.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After this queue was undeployed, the messages which were routed
> to
> > > > other
> > > > > > cluster node were unrouted and discarded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are no address settings like autoDeleteQueues,
> > > > > > autoDeleteCreatedQueues, configDeleteQueues etc. I wonder how
> could
> > > > this
> > > > > > happen.
> > > > > > The cluster queue was recreated after restart of the cluster
> > > connector.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know the root cause of the problem and we would like to
> > > prevent
> > > > > > this situation in the future because it leads to message loss. Is
> > it
> > > ok
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make cluster addresses and queues to be configuration-managed on
> > both
> > > > > > cluster nodes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ActiveMQ Artemis version is 2.37.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Alexander
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Alexander
> >
>

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