I just tested again.  It worked the 1st iteration, but 2nd iteration, the 
backup-f is waiting to be paired with primary.
  1.  start all broker instances
  2. kill primary-f
   3. check backup-f is active
   4. start primary-f
   5. check primary-f is the backup of backup-f
   6. kill backup-f
   7. check primary-f is active
   8. start backup-f
   9. backup-f is the backup of primary-f
 10. kill primary-f
 11. backup-f is active.
 12. start primary-f
 13. primary-f is backup of backup-f.
 14. kill backup-f
  15. primary-f is active
  16. start backup-f
  17. waiting to be paired with primary server.

However; if I changed the back server config to have 
<allow-failback>true</allow-failback>, it always work.

Just want to be clear the configuration.  I copy and paste the 3 cluster 
broker.xml below:
Cluster 1 
primary:
     <broadcast-groups>
         <broadcast-group name="bg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
         </broadcast-group>
      </broadcast-groups>

      <discovery-groups>
         <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
         </discovery-group>
      </discovery-groups>

      <cluster-connections>
         <cluster-connection name="my-cluster">
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
            <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
            <max-hops>0</max-hops>
            <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
         </cluster-connection>
      </cluster-connections>

      <ha-policy>
         <replication>
            <primary>
               <vote-on-replication-failure>true</vote-on-replication-failure>
<check-for-active-server>true</check-for-active-server>
<group-name>fish</group-name>
            </primary>
         </replication>
      </ha-policy>

Backup server:
      <broadcast-groups>
         <broadcast-group name="bg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
         </broadcast-group>
      </broadcast-groups>

      <discovery-groups>
         <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
         </discovery-group>
      </discovery-groups>

      <cluster-connections>
         <cluster-connection name="my-cluster">
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
            <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
            <max-hops>0</max-hops>
            <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
         </cluster-connection>
      </cluster-connections>


      <ha-policy>
         <replication>
            <backup>
<allow-failback>false</allow-failback>
<group-name>fish</group-name>
            </backup>
         </replication>
      </ha-policy>

Cluster 2:
      <broadcast-groups>
         <broadcast-group name="bg-group2">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
         </broadcast-group>
      </broadcast-groups>

      <discovery-groups>
         <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
         </discovery-group>
      </discovery-groups>

      <cluster-connections>
         <cluster-connection name="my-cluster2">
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
            <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
            <max-hops>0</max-hops>
            <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
         </cluster-connection>
      </cluster-connections>


      <ha-policy>
         <replication>
            <primary>
               <vote-on-replication-failure>true</vote-on-replication-failure>
<check-for-live-server>true</check-for-live-server>
<group-name>bear</group-name>
            </primary>
         </replication>
      </ha-policy>

Cluster 3:
      <broadcast-groups>
         <broadcast-group name="bg-group3">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
         </broadcast-group>
      </broadcast-groups>

      <discovery-groups>
         <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
            <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
            <group-port>9876</group-port>
            <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
         </discovery-group>
      </discovery-groups>

      <cluster-connections>
         <cluster-connection name="my-cluster3">
            <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
            <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
            <max-hops>0</max-hops>
            <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
         </cluster-connection>
      </cluster-connections>


      <ha-policy>
         <replication>
            <primary>
               <vote-on-replication-failure>true</vote-on-replication-failure>
<check-for-live-server>true</check-for-live-server>
<group-name>tiger</group-name>
            </primary>
         </replication>
      </ha-policy>

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From: Domenico Francesco Bruscino <bruscin...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 3:53 AM
To: rahman.guna...@nasa.gov.invalid
Cc: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: group-name not working?

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Hi Rahman,

I'm not able to reproduce this issue with following steps:

   1. create broker instances
   ./bin/artemis create primary-f --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 0
   ./bin/artemis create backup-f --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 1 --backup
   ./bin/artemis create primary-b --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 2
   ./bin/artemis create backup-b --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 3 --backup
   ./bin/artemis create primary-t --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 4
   ./bin/artemis create backup-t --user admin --password admin
   --require-login --clustered --cluster-password artemis --cluster-user
   artemis --replicated --host localhost --port-offset 5 --backup
   2. edit broker.xml files
   3. start all broker instances
   4. kill primary-f
   5. check backup-f is active
   6. start primary-f
   7. check primary-f is the backup of backup-f
   8. kill backup-f
   9. check primary-f is active
   10. start backup-f
   11. check backup-f is the backup of primary-f

Could you double-check those steps?

Regards,
Domenico


On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 at 20:29, Gunawan, Rahman (GSFC-703.H)[Halvik Corp] 
<rahman.guna...@nasa.gov.invalid> wrote:

> I have 3 cluster with broker.xml config, the other 2 cluster has group 
> name = bear and tiger.
> Primary server:
>       <broadcast-groups>
>          <broadcast-group name="bg-group1">
>             <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
>             <group-port>9876</group-port>
>             <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
>             <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
>          </broadcast-group>
>       </broadcast-groups>
>
>       <discovery-groups>
>          <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
>             <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
>             <group-port>9876</group-port>
>             <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
>          </discovery-group>
>       </discovery-groups>
>
>       <cluster-connections>
>          <cluster-connection name="my-cluster">
>             <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
>             <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
>             <max-hops>0</max-hops>
>             <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
>          </cluster-connection>
>       </cluster-connections>
>
>
>       <ha-policy>
>          <replication>
>             <primary>
>
>  <vote-on-replication-failure>true</vote-on-replication-failure>
> <check-for-active-server>true</check-for-active-server>
> <group-name>fish</group-name>
>             </primary>
>          </replication>
>       </ha-policy>
>
> Backup server:
>       <broadcast-groups>
>          <broadcast-group name="bg-group1">
>             <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
>             <group-port>9876</group-port>
>             <broadcast-period>5000</broadcast-period>
>             <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
>          </broadcast-group>
>       </broadcast-groups>
>
>       <discovery-groups>
>          <discovery-group name="dg-group1">
>             <group-address>231.7.7.7</group-address>
>             <group-port>9876</group-port>
>             <refresh-timeout>10000</refresh-timeout>
>          </discovery-group>
>       </discovery-groups>
>
>       <cluster-connections>
>          <cluster-connection name="my-cluster">
>             <connector-ref>artemis</connector-ref>
>             <message-load-balancing>ON_DEMAND</message-load-balancing>
>             <max-hops>0</max-hops>
>             <discovery-group-ref discovery-group-name="dg-group1"/>
>          </cluster-connection>
>       </cluster-connections>
>
>
>       <ha-policy>
>          <replication>
>             <backup>
> <allow-failback>false</allow-failback>
> <group-name>fish</group-name>
>             </backup>
>          </replication>
>       </ha-policy>
>
> At the beginning, it works as expected:
>
>   1.  When primary server failed, the backup server became active.
>   2.  When primary server brought back up, it check for active server.
>   3.  Failed the active server, the primary server became active.
> However, when the backup server is brought back up, it didn't pair 
> with the primary server and become backup server, waiting to pair with 
> primary.
>
> Is this bugs in Artemis 2.35?
>
> Regards,
> Rahman
>
>
>

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