Hello Justin, I have created a small project in https://github.com/aitars/AMQ149005-Reproduce for reproducing the AMQ149005 on backup broker. This is a modified version of “JMS Replicated Failback Static Example”. I did choose the static example as base because our broker pair is also setup static.
Example sets up the broker pair and sends a message with property “bulk” containing a string of 250736 ‘x’. Backup broker should log the AMQ149005, client get a 30 second time out. Kind regards, Arno Von: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2024 18:47 An: users@activemq.apache.org Betreff: Re: Suspected slow replication I'm not aware of anything related to reloading broker. xml that would impact replication, and I don't think replication itself will change the size of the message (e. g. via adding headers). Replication is performed at the journal level so whatever I'm not aware of anything related to reloading broker.xml that would impact replication, and I don't think replication itself will change the size of the message (e.g. via adding headers). Replication is performed at the journal level so whatever is written to disk on the primary is what should be written to disk on the backup. That said, there are other processes within the broker which add internal headers (e.g. diverting a message) which may be contributing here. Do you have a way to reproduce this? If so, could you provide me with a reproducer or at least steps to reproduce? It's worth noting that a change was made recently to the broker via ARTEMIS-4694 [1] that will log a WARN message when there's a message that is _close_ to the max size. That change will be a part of the upcoming 2.34.0 release. In the mean-time, I'm looking at ways to improve the ERROR message. Justin [1] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4694__;!!JQ9pMA!ybrypk7ERv5v4rUFBTnYc8X-NZ_RhFGhJrYGjOlJ131LYujnh9MgcIyITTU11Br22OlMrnKY1KkKuf1WdVh7jQ$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4694__;!!JQ9pMA!ybrypk7ERv5v4rUFBTnYc8X-NZ_RhFGhJrYGjOlJ131LYujnh9MgcIyITTU11Br22OlMrnKY1KkKuf1WdVh7jQ$> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 9:01 AM Arno Schuerhoff <arno.schuerh...@havi.com<mailto:arno.schuerh...@havi.com>> wrote: > Hello all, > > we have got somewhat closer to the root cause. Primary broker started > increasing response time for sending messages again and was “fixed” by > simple reload of configuration by “touch broker.xml”. > > Replicating backup broker log contains lines like > > 2024-04-25 01:33:41,401 WARN > [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.replication.ReplicationEndpoint] > AMQ149005: Message of 501793 bytes is bigger than the max record size of > 501760 bytes. You should try to move large application properties to the > message body. > org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.ActiveMQIOErrorException: AMQ149005: > Message of 501793 bytes is bigger than the max record size of 501760 bytes. > You should try to move large application properties to the message body. > > Live primary broker log doesn’t contain such lines regarding “large > application properties”. > > We had 501793 and 501769 as sizes for application properties what made the > persisting trouble. > This is 33 and 9 bytes more than the limit. > > I believe if you are sending a message to live broker having application > properties larger than 490K then it’s rejected by live broker and log is > also written at live broker. > But if you manage to send a message having 490K minus tidy amount of bytes > application properties: > > 1 - it passes live broker and gets persisted > 2 - it gets by replication some administrative information added > 3- now application properties are 490K + something and error occurs on > replicating backup broker > 4 - client doesn’t return from call until time out reached or never if > poor configured > > I have tested this a message having 526101 bytes application properties > (24341 bytes above limit) and second message having 501772 bytes > application properties (12 bytes above limit like our backup log entries). > First message was rejected immediate, and no entry showed up in backup > broker log. Live broker log contained AMQ149005 entries. > Second message took 30 seconds until time out, we got a similar AMQ149005 > log entries in backup broker: > > 024-04-25 14:21:14,843 WARN > [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.replication.ReplicationEndpoint] > AMQ149005: Message of 501772 bytes is bigger than the max record size of > 501760 bytes. You should try to move large application properties to the > message body. > org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.ActiveMQIOErrorException: AMQ149005: > Message of 501772 bytes is bigger than the max record size of 501760 bytes. > You should try to move large application properties to the message body. > > Same entry was also in live broker log, but preceded with an AMQ224016: > > 2024-04-25 14:21:14,745 ERROR [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ224016: Caught exception > org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.ActiveMQIOErrorException: AMQ149005: > Message of 501772 bytes is bigger than the max record size of 501760 bytes. > You should try to move large application properties to the message body. > > Main difference to production issue is the absence of AMQ149005 in live > broker log, what I cannot explain. > > According to > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DISPATCH-2254__;!!JQ9pMA!ybrypk7ERv5v4rUFBTnYc8X-NZ_RhFGhJrYGjOlJ131LYujnh9MgcIyITTU11Br22OlMrnKY1KkKuf3eahdKGA$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DISPATCH-2254__;!!JQ9pMA!ybrypk7ERv5v4rUFBTnYc8X-NZ_RhFGhJrYGjOlJ131LYujnh9MgcIyITTU11Br22OlMrnKY1KkKuf3eahdKGA$> > such > messages with too big properties may have huge impact on brokers. > We need to identify the sender of that messages, but only information is > time point and size of application properies. > > Is there any option to get more log output from live or backup broker to > get more message properties like queue name? > > Kind regards, > Arno > > > > Von: Arno Schuerhoff > <arno.schuerh...@havi.com<mailto:arno.schuerh...@havi.com>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. April 2024 13:54 > An: users@activemq.apache.org<mailto:users@activemq.apache.org> > Betreff: Suspected slow replication > > Hello all, we are using Artemis MQ in a fail-safe configuration with > active primary broker and replicating backup. This works since years and > many thanks for this great application. Some weeks ago, we have replaced > old broker pair by a fresh > > Hello all, > > we are using Artemis MQ in a fail-safe configuration with active primary > broker and replicating backup. > This works since years and many thanks for this great application. > > Some weeks ago, we have replaced old broker pair by a fresh installation > using Artemis MQ version 2.31.2. > Starting with that time point, we experienced slow responses from primary > broker if sending a message. > Clients needed up to 120 seconds to deliver a message, usual value is > about 200 milliseconds. > > Last week we had some pressure from business regarding low data throughput. > I decided to add some more logging to primary broker and changed two lines > in broker.xml: > > <property key="LOG_CONNECTION_EVENTS" value="false"/> became <property > key="LOG_CONNECTION_EVENTS" value="true"/> > <property key="LOG_SENDING_EVENTS" value="false"/> became <property > key="LOG_SENDING_EVENTS" value="true"/> > > Plugin > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server.plugin.impl.LoggingActiveMQServerPlugin > was already activated to get log messages for expired messages by setting > <property key="LOG_INTERNAL_EVENTS" value="true"/>. > > After saving the broker.xml the broker has reloaded the configuration and > the problem of slow responses when sending a message disappeared. > I have evaluated logs from client before and after that configuration > change, we are back to 200 milliseconds and below by configuration reload > for logging two more events. > > Excerpt from primary broker log: > > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,069 INFO [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ221056: Reloading configuration: security > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,074 INFO [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ221056: Reloading configuration: address settings > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,077 INFO [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ221056: Reloading configuration: diverts > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,086 WARN [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ222092: Connection to the backup node failed, removing replication now > org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.ActiveMQRemoteDisconnectException: > null > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl.connectionDestroyed(RemotingServiceImpl.java:598) > ~[artemis-server-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.impl.netty.NettyAcceptor$Listener.connectionDestroyed(NettyAcceptor.java:974) > ~[artemis-server-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.impl.netty.ActiveMQChannelHandler.lambda$channelInactive$0(ActiveMQChannelHandler.java:89) > ~[artemis-core-client-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.actors.OrderedExecutor.doTask(OrderedExecutor.java:57) > ~[artemis-commons-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.actors.OrderedExecutor.doTask(OrderedExecutor.java:32) > ~[artemis-commons-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.actors.ProcessorBase.executePendingTasks(ProcessorBase.java:68) > ~[artemis-commons-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > at > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1136) > [?:?] > at > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:635) > [?:?] > at > org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.ActiveMQThreadFactory$1.run(ActiveMQThreadFactory.java:118) > [artemis-commons-2.31.2.jar:2.31.2] > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,103 INFO > [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server.impl.ReplicationPrimaryActivation] > Server [ActiveMQServerImpl::name=amq_prod_primary], incremented local > activation sequence to: 7 for NodeId = peer.amq.prod+ > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,109 INFO > [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server.impl.ReplicationPrimaryActivation] > Server [ActiveMQServerImpl::name=amq_prod_primary], incremented coordinated > activation sequence to: 7 for NodeId = peer.amq.prod+ > 2024-04-18 20:15:38,072 INFO [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] > AMQ221056: Reloading configuration: addresses > > After reading the AMQ222092 related entry about failed connection to > backup node I suspect we had a problem all the time with the replication > connection. > If sending a message to the queue the primary broker doesn’t send back the > message is received until message is replicated to backup. Slow replication > would mean slow response times. > > How can I check if we really had a replication problem? > Backup broker log for same day starts with entries probably related to > reload on primary: > > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,082 ERROR [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.client] > AMQ214013: Failed to decode packet > java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: readerIndex(28) + length(276) exceeds > writerIndex(300): PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 28, widx: 300, cap: 300) > … > 2024-04-18 20:15:32,082 ERROR [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.client] > AMQ214031: Failed to decode buffer, disconnect immediately. > java.lang.IllegalStateException: java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: > readerIndex(28) + length(276) exceeds writerIndex(300): > PooledUnsafeDirectByteBuf(ridx: 28, widx: 300, cap: 300) > … > > Any help enlightening me why problem of slow responses disappeared by > configuration reload or links to documentation what I may have missed are > appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Arno > > > Arno Schürhoff (he/him/his) > Solution Architect ESB, Enterprise Data Services > HAVI Logistics Business Services GmbH > Geitlingstr. 20, 47228 Duisburg, Germany > Phone +49 2065 7084991 > Mobile +49 173 2576088 > arno.schuerh...@havi.com<mailto:arno.schuerh...@havi.com<mailto:arno.schuerh...@havi.com%3cmailto:arno.schuerh...@havi.com>> > HAVI.com<http://www.havi.com/> > > [cid:image001.png@01DA9574.0C8D6930] > > Geschäftsführer: Arnd Christochowitz > Die Gesellschaft ist eingetragen beim Registergericht Duisburg (Sitz der > Gesellschaft) Nr. 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