Thank you Justin.  I upgraded to 11 on my dev box, then installed 2.22 and it 
now displays my messages -- although I don't see when I can view the message 
content, which is something I could do on the Classic console.  I can live with 
that.

I'm not entirely sure we can upgrade to 11 on our prod box (running on a gov't 
air-gapped secure network), but I will look into it.  The nice thing is I can 
install it alongside 8 -- assuming I can install it at all -- and use the 
alternatives system to switch it out.

Anyway, thanks for your help again.  I think I can muddle through this.

Rich
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> Is there a way to get it to run under Java 8?

Unfortunately there isn't. Both ActiveMQ "Classic" and Artemis have moved
on from Java 8 for the latest releases. "Classic" made the transition in
5.17.0 and Artemis in 2.20.0. That said, there are still branches where
Java 8 releases are possible, but those releases would be for bug fixes
only and would not have any new features. The 2.19.1 release was like that.
It's technically possible to do another 2.19.x release, but there's
currently nothing scheduled.

You always have the option of cherry-picking fixes and building your own
release. Any seasoned Java developer could manage that.

In any event, I would strongly recommend moving beyond Java 8 at this
point. From what I can tell much of the Java world has already done so.

> ...we work on a secure network that is not always up to the latest and
greatest...

For what it's worth, Java 11 is not the "latest and greatest." That
distinction goes to Java 18 at this point. Java 11 was released almost 4
years ago in September 2018 and Java 17 (the latest LTS release) came in
September 2021. But I digress.


Justin

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:29 AM Richard Bergmann
<rbergm...@colsa.com.invalid> wrote:

> Is there a way to get it to run under Java 8?  I tried 2.22 but it cried
> about Java 11 and I'm not sure we can upgrade to it (we work on a secure
> network that is not always up to the latest and greatest).  :(
>
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> You're almost certainly hitting ARTEMIS-3677 [1]. It appears you migrated
> recently so I would have expected you to use a more recent version than
> 2.19.0 (which was released almost 8 months ago). You'll need to move to at
> least 2.21.0 although 2.22.0 would be better. Keep in mind that 2.23.0 is
> in the voting process now so it should land soon.
>
>
> Justin
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> [1]
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:52 AM Richard Bergmann
> <rbergm...@colsa.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I migrated my application from Classic to Artemis 2.19 (Running Java 8)
> > and messages that I used to be able to view are not shown in the new
> > console.  Note that there are over 25K messages in the queue and at the
> > moment there are no consumers or producers and the service has been
> > restarted (i.e., the messages are durable).
> >
> > If it makes any difference, the messages are JSON since I am using Python
> > STOMP and Python is very JSONic.
> >
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