Hi,

We can a see there is still an interest from the users to Apache
ActiveMQ 5.x.

In github we have 61 open PR => https://github.com/apache/activemq/pulls

Why forcing users to migrate to Artemis if the community is still active?

regards,

François
fpa...@apache.org

Le 08/07/2019 à 18:15, michael.andre.pea...@me.com.INVALID a écrit :
> I think as a project we need to be clear in direction here with one roadmap. 
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:13 PM +0100, <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
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> Hi JB,
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> I think it make a lot of sense to focus on this points and I will be
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> There is a very large community of users around the ActiveMQ 5.x and
> it's still very widely use in production environment.
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> I'm not sure that the users actually understand the difference between
> ActiveMQ 5.x and Artemis, and why Artemis will became ActiveMQ 6.x.
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> If ActiveMQ 5.x still has a long life, I think that the community should
> be clear about the 2 projects name.
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> regards,
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> Le 18/06/2019 à 19:44, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
>> Hi all,
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>> I would like to discuss with you about the ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap.
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>> Even if Artemis is there, the stack is different and we still have lot
>> of users on ActiveMQ, and, as a ActiveMQ 5.x fan and contributor, I
>> think it's worth to give a new "dimension" to ActiveMQ 5.x.
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>> As all Apache projects, ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap and use is driven by the
>> community, so I would like to propose and share some ideas with the
>> ActiveMQ community.
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>> I already imagine a new codename for ActiveMQ 5.x roadmap: ActiveMQ Missus.
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>> Basically, I would like to propose a roadmap around three major points:
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>> 1. Modularity
>> Today, ActiveMQ 5.x is a monolythic broker, even if most of the parts
>> are already well isolated (persistent stores, transport connectors,
>> etc). It makes sense to have some more "modular" and micro-services
>> oriented, why not leveraging Apache Karaf with services.
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>> 2. Configuration backends
>> We currently use Spring beans XML as main configuration backend (or
>> blueprint in Karaf). I think it makes sense to update and split the
>> configuration backend with something more "pluggable", and be able to
>> expose new configuration format like yml.
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>> 3. Protocol/API update
>> I would like to add support of JMS 2.0 in ActiveMQ 5.x and check/update
>> the other protocols/APIs.
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>> 4. Cloud friendly
>> I already sent some ideas weeks ago about "cloud friendly features" in
>> ActiveMQ 5.x.
>> Basically, I would like to propose:
>> - a replicated/distributed persistent store to be able to have several
>> brokers running with a distributed store. I'm testing an update to
>> KahaDB using Bookkeeper.
>> - provide new discovery agents with support of Kubernetes, Hazelcast, ...
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>> I would love to hear the community about this ! ;)
>> I'm planning to start a complete document to provide more details and
>> "milestone".
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>> Thoughts ?
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>> Regards
>> JB
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