although..  look at activemq for some comparison:
http://activemq.apache.org/persistence.html


and look at artemis for some comparison if that helps:
http://activemq.apache.org/artemis/docs/1.2.0/persistence.html



Persistence on messaging is usually to help you survive failures or paging.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Tim Dunphy <bluethu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is the user's forum for the Apache ActiveMQ project.
>
>
> Whoops! Sorry. I'll go hit them up for info.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >>find out if if it's necessary to enable message persistence in
>> order to backup RabbitMQ message queues<<
>>
>> you would be better asking that question on the RabbitMQ user's forum,
>> or whatever they provide you.
>>
>> This is the user's forum for the Apache ActiveMQ project.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Tim Dunphy <bluethu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey guys,
>> >
>> >  I need to find out if if it's necessary to enable message persistence in
>> > order to backup RabbitMQ message queues. I believe it is, but I would
>> like
>> > some confirmation on that.
>> >
>> > The reason I ask is that we are using RabbitMQ within a PaaS system known
>> > as Pivotal Cloud Foundry. We'd like to backup our rabbitMQ nodes at the
>> > vmware level. But PCF does not have the ability to enable message
>> > persistence in it's rabbitMQ service.
>> >
>> > So if that's the case where message persistance would need to be on, the
>> > only solution would probably be to replicate to a RabbitMQ cluster that
>> > sits outside of PCF via shovel or federation, and enable message
>> > persistence in the external cluster. Then we could backup that cluster.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on this?
>> >
>> > Thanks!!
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > --
>> > GPG me!!
>> >
>> > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clebert Suconic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> GPG me!!
>
> gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B



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