We are using it as a reliable task scheduler - we submit asynchronous tasks to 
be executed that don't need to be on the user's request-handling thread.  Some 
of these tasks involve communication with other systems that might be down at 
the time.  We queue up the tasks and retry them until they succeed so that we 
don't lose any.  That's why we have a 3h redelivery delay - if the system was 
down, 3h should be more than enough for it to come back up (although some of 
our 3rd party vendors don't always make it.  :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Ibsen [mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:18 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re: Intermittent delayed delivery

The redelivery delay values seems high to me. Is this on purpose?
10800000 mills is a high value

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ken DeLong <ken.del...@babycenter.com> wrote:
> We are using ActiveMQ 5.5.1 as an embedded broker in our Spring 3.1.0 
> application. We have enabled message redelivery.  From time to time, we see 
> messages that are sent to the queue, but are never delivered, or are 
> delivered hours later.  We've gone through the posts on using Spring's JMS 
> Template with ActiveMQ and think we have the proper settings.
>
> Our current theory is that perhaps when messages throw a RuntimeException, 
> and get re-enqueued for later delivery, the consumers are not released and 
> the new messages can't be delivered.  However, we can't really gather much 
> evidence to support this.
>
> I'm including  the configuration that we are using, in the hopes that someone 
> might spot something that we have got wrong.
>
> <amq:broker id="jmsBroker" useJmx="true" persistent="true"
>        brokerName="localhost" dataDirectory="${catalina.home}/data/intl2/jms"
>        start="true">
>        <amq:destinationPolicy>
>               <amq:policyMap>
>                      <amq:policyEntries>
>                            <amq:policyEntry topic=">" 
> producerFlowControl="false" memoryLimit="1mb" useCache="false">
>                                   <amq:pendingSubscriberPolicy>
>                                   <amq:vmCursor />
>                                   </amq:pendingSubscriberPolicy>
>                            </amq:policyEntry>
>                            <!-- Prefetch : 
> http://activemq.apache.org/what-is-the-prefetch-limit-for.html
>                                 Flow control: 
> http://activemq.apache.org/producer-flow-control.html
>                                 Stuck messages: 
> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Messages-stuck-in-queue-td3244342.html
>                                                 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2009
>                            -->
>                            <amq:policyEntry queue=">" 
> producerFlowControl="false" memoryLimit="1mb" useCache="false" 
> queuePrefetch="1">
>                                   <!-- Use VM cursor for better latency For 
> more information, see: http://activemq.apache.org/message-cursors.html
>                                          <pendingQueuePolicy> 
> <vmQueueCursor/> </pendingQueuePolicy> -->
>                            </amq:policyEntry>
>                      </amq:policyEntries>
>               </amq:policyMap>
>        </amq:destinationPolicy>
>        <amq:managementContext>
>               <amq:managementContext createConnector="false" />
>        </amq:managementContext>
>        <amq:persistenceAdapter>
>               <amq:kahaDB directory="${catalina.home}/data/intl2/jms/kahadb"
>                      checkForCorruptJournalFiles="true" 
> checksumJournalFiles="true"
>                      forceRecoverIndex="true" />
>        </amq:persistenceAdapter>
> </amq:broker>
>
> <!-- <bean id="jmsConnectionFactory" 
> class="org.apache.activemq.pool.PooledConnectionFactory"
>        destroy-method="stop"> -->
> <bean id="jmsConnectionFactory" 
> class="org.springframework.jms.connection.CachingConnectionFactory">
>        <property name="targetConnectionFactory">
>               <bean 
> class="org.apache.activemq.spring.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
>                      <property name="brokerURL" value="vm://localhost" />
>                      <property name="redeliveryPolicy">
>                            <bean class="org.apache.activemq.RedeliveryPolicy">
>                                   <property name="maximumRedeliveries"    
> value="15" />
>                                   <property name="initialRedeliveryDelay" 
> value="10800000" />
>                                   <property name="redeliveryDelay"        
> value="10800000" />
>                            </bean>
>                      </property>
>               </bean>
>        </property>
> </bean>
>
> <bean id="eventServiceJmsTemplate" 
> class="org.springframework.jms.core.JmsTemplate">
>        <property name="connectionFactory" ref="jmsConnectionFactory" />
>        <property name="defaultDestination" ref="destination" />
>        <property name="pubSubDomain" value="false" />
>        <property name="deliveryPersistent" value="true" />
> </bean>
>
> <bean id="destination" class="org.apache.activemq.command.ActiveMQQueue">
>        <property name="physicalName" value="asynchQueue" />
> </bean>
>
> <bean id="destinationResolver" 
> class="org.springframework.jms.support.destination.BeanFactoryDestinationResolver"
>  />
>        <!--
>      http://activemq.apache.org/message-redelivery-and-dlq-handling.html
>      Tracing through Spring's code, it seems that it will not roll back the 
> transaction unless we set acknowledge to "transacted"
>      I tested it on integ, messages are not being redelivered with "auto", 
> but they are in "transacted" mode
>      Cache none: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2009
> -->
> <jms:listener-container connection-factory="jmsConnectionFactory"
>                            acknowledge="transacted"
>                            cache="none"
>                            concurrency="5"
>                            destination-resolver="destinationResolver">
>        <jms:listener destination="destination" 
> ref="asynchronousEventExecutor" />
> </jms:listener-container>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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