Hi Torsten,
We are using ActiveMQ 5.4.2
Thank you for your help, I will try that and advise of the results. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Torsten Mielke [mailto:tors...@fusesource.com] 
Sent: 21 August 2012 03:25 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: Re: ActiveMQ hangs

What version of ActiveMQ are you using? 
Even with producer flow control disabled, the broker will still suspend 
producers when it reaches any of the configured systemUsage limits. If you 
don't specify any systemUsage in your brokers configuration, a default and hard 
coded systemUsage applies. So producers can still be blocked. 
Its perhaps better to explicitly set the systemUsage to your requirements than 
rely on the defaults.

Also, when you reach 70% of the configured queue destination memory limit, the 
cursor will not store any more new msgs in memory but reload them from the 
persistence adapter when its time to dispatch them. Persistent queue messages 
get written to kahadb right when being received by the broker.

Regards,
Torsten Mielke



On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tlholoe, Peter wrote:

> Hi,
> I am currently monitoring all the queues/ topics at the moment. In the 
> interim I did disable producer-flow-control, and increasing the 
> memoryLimit=1024Mb, but I didn't activate systemUsage, and I read that the 
> memory limit configuration is dependent on the systemUsage configuration. 
> My idea of this is that in the event of a slow consumer, all the message that 
> are not yet consumed can be offlined to a file system, so as not to exhaust 
> broker resources and avoid profucer flow control kicking in. 
> 
>        <destinationPolicy>
>            <policyMap>
>              <policyEntries>
>                <policyEntry topic=">" producerFlowControl="false" 
> memoryLimit="1024mb">
>                  <pendingSubscriberPolicy>
>                    <vmCursor />
>                  </pendingSubscriberPolicy>
>                </policyEntry>
>                <policyEntry queue=">" producerFlowControl="false" 
> memoryLimit="1024mb">
>                  <!-- Use VM cursor for better latency
>                       For more information, see:
> 
>                       http://activemq.apache.org/message-cursors.html
> 
>                  <pendingQueuePolicy>
>                    <vmQueueCursor/>
>                  </pendingQueuePolicy>
>                  -->
>                </policyEntry>
>              </policyEntries>
>            </policyMap>
>        </destinationPolicy>
> 
> 
> System Usage
>      <!--  <systemUsage>
>            <systemUsage>
>                <memoryUsage>
>                    <memoryUsage limit="20 mb"/>
>                </memoryUsage>
>                <storeUsage>
>                    <storeUsage limit="1 gb"/>
>                </storeUsage>
>                <tempUsage>
>                    <tempUsage limit="100 mb"/>
>                </tempUsage>
>            </systemUsage>
>        </systemUsage>         -->
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Torsten Mielke [mailto:tors...@fusesource.com]
> Sent: 21 August 2012 10:46 AM
> To: users@activemq.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ActiveMQ hangs
> 
> Hello,
> 
> In your Camel route you seem to route message from various destinations on 
> the broker to other destinations on the same broker.
> Is it possible that the destinations you route message to are getting filled 
> up (not all, but some of them). 
> If that happens, producer flow control might kick in, causing the Camel route 
> producers to be put on hold until more messages get consumed. 
> If the Camel route producer is stalled, the entire Camel route is stalled.
> http://activemq.apache.org/producer-flow-control.html
> 
> I suggest you monitor all queues and topics on the broker using either the 
> web console or JMX. 
> Also, a thread dump of the broker and the Camel route (in case it runs 
> external to the broker) could help you to find out in what state the broker 
> and your Camel route are. 
> 
> 
> 
> Torsten Mielke
> tors...@fusesource.com
> tmie...@blogspot.com
> 
> 
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Tlholoe, Peter wrote:
> 
>> We currently have a problem in our production environment. We have one 
>> general purpose topic where all messages are published to, and A Camel  
>> subscribed to that general purpose topic, apply rules to route the messages 
>> to different topics. That consumer constantly has higher 
>> MessageCountAwaitingAcknowledge and higer DispachedQueueSize (around 2000). 
>> Our PROD is a high message traffic message environment.
>> 
>> Any pointers on what might be causing this. Please see attached our 
>> activemq.xml and camel.xml.
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