Gary Tully uttered:
the keepAlive kicks in after the start() has successfully obtained the
lock, so a slave should just block, but a master should check the lock
status every period. By default it does an update using the connection
that has a pending transaction.

Ah, right, the keepAlive is for extant locks, not for keeping-alive connections that are waiting for a lock. Which is, in hindsight, exactly what the name suggests.

It may be that that update has no need to hit the server till a
commit... not sure. May depend on the driver. But it should be
sufficient to validate the jdbc connection.

I cannot see a way to validate the jdbc connection while the slave is blocked waiting for a response to its SELECT FOR UPDATE as the validation can only be done on idle connections and the connection is not idle, it is actively waiting for a response to its query. Even removeAbandoned won't touch it, as . . . it hasn't been abandoned.


Have peek at the source:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/activemq/trunk/activemq-core/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/store/jdbc/DefaultDatabaseLocker.java?view=markup


Yes, sorry -- I should have done this earlier. But it's so long since I've coded Java that I assumed finding the right bit would take me a geological age.

Looking at that nice while loop, it occurs to me that another approach that would work, would be to alter the SQL used to grab the lock to so that it won't wait indefinitely, eg:

  SELECT * FROM ACTIVEMQ_LOCK FOR UPDATE WAIT 300

From looking at http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core/activemq-core-5.5.0.xsd, I cannot see a way to supply this SQL in config. Do you happen to know whether this is possible?

Meanwhile, I shall get onto our hosting company about the half-open connection.

Thanks again fro your help,

Alex.



On 25 May 2012 13:36, Alex Hooper <ahoo...@bmjgroup.com> wrote:
Gary Tully uttered:
[snip]

In your setup, it is odd that the dropped connection does not cause
the lock keepAlive to fail and the broker to terminate. It should,
unless there are tcp level options that need to kick in to see the
half close. Or some connection pool config that can pick up on the
failure, there are some validate options on commons jdbc pool that
could help there.

[snip]

Hopefully the above will help, but start with determining why in your
current setup, the lock keepalive is not triggering for you when the
connection is dropped because that is a little odd. unless you have
the
org.apache.activemq.store.jdbc.JDBCPersistenceAdapter#setLockKeepAlivePeriod
= 0.


How exactly does the lock keepalive mechanism work? I'm explicitly set it in
the xml config now:

<jdbcPersistenceAdapter brokerName="prod-s01"
     dataDirectory="${activemq.base}/data" dataSource="#oracle-ds"
     useDatabaseLock="true" lockKeepAlivePeriod="10">
   <statements>
     <statements stringIdDataType="VARCHAR(128)" />
    </statements>
 </jdbcPersistenceAdapter>

But once the instance has started and issued its initial lock-requesting
query, there is no further TCP activity at all. Maybe I've misunderstood the
intent of this function; that's far from unlikely.

Alex.



On 24 May 2012 11:45, Alex Hooper <ahoo...@bmjgroup.com> wrote:
Hi,

We are running activemq 5.5.1 in an active/passive failover configuration
with JDBC Persistence to an Oracle backend. The default strategy for
determining whether the current master has failed is for the secondary
server to attempt to get a lock on the database table, waiting
indefinitely
for the lock to be granted.

This is not working (at least in our context) as, after a relatively
short
time in operation (a handful of hours at most) the connection to Oracle
is
dropped. Activemq doesn't notice this, so the secondary sits there
happily
waiting for a lock it can now never get and, in the event of a failure,
won't serve any clients as it is not a master.

Is there some way to change the decision mechanism to, eg, a polling
strategy? Or can anyone suggest another resolution to this problem?

Alex.
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