I can't explain this at all. It's almost like the opposite of reliable 
messaging. At times, almost 1 in 3 messages just disappears. No errors. The 
KahaDB/db-*.log show no record of the message every arriving and yet the 
producer doesn't get an error.

Alistair


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mov eax,1
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On 21 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Alistair Young wrote:

> yep, there is a durable topic consumer waiting for them
> 
> Alistair
> 
> 
> -- 
> mov eax,1
> mov ebx,0
> int 80h
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> On 21 Sep 2011, at 12:20, Gary Tully wrote:
> 
>> topic messages are only persisted to the store if there are durable
>> consumers/subscriptions
>> 
>> On 21 September 2011 11:04, Alistair Young <alistair.yo...@uhi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> I should say, the messages go to a topic on the broker and are then routed 
>>> by camel to another topc. Would camel be dropping the messages? Would they 
>>> not be logged in the kahadb store no matter what though?
>>> 
>>> Alistair
>>> 
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>>> --
>>> mov eax,1
>>> mov ebx,0
>>> int 80h
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>>> On 21 Sep 2011, at 10:25, Alistair Young wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I doubt it. In a batch of three messages sent in 2 seconds, one 
>>>> disappeard. Is there a default throttle limit perhaps on the broker? But 
>>>> surely that would cause the producer to error out or something?
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>> Alistair Young
>>>> Àrd-Innleadair air Bathar-Bog
>>>> UHI@Sabhal Mòr Ostaig
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 21 Sep 2011, at 09:59, Torsten Mielke wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Any chance you can reproduce this behavior in a little JUnit test case?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Alistair Young wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There was no producer, broker or connection crash while the msg was in 
>>>>>>> transit?
>>>>>> no, the logs show it was up and sending
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The msg does not have an expiration time?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you certain that no consumer has got the msg already?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes, there's no record of it arriving at the consumer and no log of it 
>>>>>> in the kahadb data store
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the producer sent 49 messages in 2 seconds.The 43rd and 46th messages 
>>>>>> disappeared. They never reached the broker it would seem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>> Alistair Young
>>>>>> Àrd-Innleadair air Bathar-Bog
>>>>>> UHI@Sabhal Mòr Ostaig
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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