> I second Chris's suggestion to initialize the list when you need it. Cool getting feedback from you guys.
I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but my point is that I don't *need* the list - or at least I shouldn't need it IMO. As a user, I hit the submit button on a form that has a select list. The select list was populated during the display. During the submit, I only require the selected value in the select list which comes down in the POST. The framework is insisting though that the list be current, but only when I have a validation file. Again, the page works great until I put the validation file in place and then the framework starts wanting to have the list be populated - whether I do that populating in validate() or prepare() - which is my current work-around, but I stress "work-around." - Eric