Please note, I have NOTHING to do with IBM. : ) On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:59 AM, john feng<johngf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Martin, > > I did not use ROSE to generate the configuration files since the IDE > will do. IBM Rational Software Architect looks like what you are > looking for. (Please note, I have no nothing to do with IBM.) > > John Feng > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Martin Gainty<mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Feng- >> >> I have used ROSE to generate plain jsps (without taglibs) and non-annotated >> POJOs >> will ROSE (or any OOD/OOA design tool) generate a complete MVC architecture? >> (currently seeking a tool which would auto-generate the 'guts' of struts.xml >> and struts-default.xml and web.xml) >> >> thanks! >> Martin Gainty >> ______________________________________________ >> Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité >> >> Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. 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Étant donné que les email >> peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter >> aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:12:17 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: Application Design(architecture) >>> From: johngf...@gmail.com >>> To: user@struts.apache.org >>> >>> What I normally went thru when I started a project. ( -by Rose and >>> import to an IDE) >>> >>> 1. clarify the problem boundary for your system to be built; >>> 2. identify the actors and use cases for the system/subsystem; >>> 4. use case visual realization >>> 5. UML OO design for use case where kicks in OO design pattern >>> 6. generate the class skeletons for boundary, entity and service objects >>> >>> -- you don't have to stick exactly to above steps. But you at least >>> better know the essential of Rational OO Application Design concept >>> and can taylor the steps you would feel confident for. >>> >>> Enjoy and have fun ! >>> >>> John Feng >>> >>> 2009/6/12 shekher awasthi <shekher.awas...@gmail.com>: >>> > Some of my questions are >>> > >>> > Is there any Use of UML >>> > How to think in terms of Design Patterns while designing the process >>> > or any tool(s) which can help me a bit in this process >>> > >>> > 2009/6/12 shekher awasthi <shekher.awas...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> >> Thanks Pawel for quick reply regarding the application how it will look >>> >> like i have some information about it and yes i am a bit known about the >>> >> different layers but my main point is that i worked on them level by >>> >> level i >>> >> am not aware about the whole designing process that is my main point >>> >> >>> >> 2009/6/12 Paweł Wielgus <poulw...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> Hi Shekher, >>> >>> i'm no expert in this subject but, >>> >>> You might read something abut RUP (rational unified process), >>> >>> then read abut Agile and XP and SCRUM - it's not strictly about design >>> >>> but it will give some light about the whole process. >>> >>> In the mean time try to imagine how this app will look like, >>> >>> and how You can present it to others - there are many tools for that, >>> >>> and most likely You will use more than one. >>> >>> You can take a look at Rails framework, >>> >>> and how are common problems solved there. >>> >>> >>> >>> Think about such things as: >>> >>> - presentation layer (You have stated it will be struts)(maybe do some >>> >>> wireframes) >>> >>> - persistence >>> >>> - bussiness logic >>> >>> - comunication with outside world - maybe? >>> >>> - environement to run it >>> >>> >>> >>> This is very wide subject, but in the end it's all about a common sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best greetings, >>> >>> Paweł Wielgus. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/6/12 shekher awasthi <shekher.awas...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> > Hi All, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I would like to say sorry if u think this question is out of list, but >>> >>> since >>> >>> > my problem also have relation with struts2 so i thought to give a try >>> >>> here >>> >>> > and hope to get some positive replies. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > We are planning so strat a new project and yes Struts will be the >>> >>> building >>> >>> > block for this. I have been assigned the task for the Application >>> >>> > Design >>> >>> and >>> >>> > later to lead the development team.From the last so many years, i am >>> >>> only >>> >>> > invloved in develpoment whatever i have been asked to develop i just >>> >>> > followed that. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Now i have to first design the Application than have to lead the >>> >>> development >>> >>> > process,i know most of the people here are invloved in designing >>> >>> > process >>> >>> so >>> >>> > my question from all of you are how can i start this process and i am >>> >>> > clueless at the moment.the basic question are >>> >>> > >>> >>> > 1. Where to start >>> >>> > 2 How to design Application i.e what needs to be taken care of, any >>> >>> tools >>> >>> > that can help in designing or any other important points >>> >>> > 3 How To redirect from Designing to Development (What should be taken >>> >>> care >>> >>> > when we start Develpoment Process) >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I can explore furthure if i get some starting point so any help in >>> >>> > this >>> >>> > regard will be much appriciated >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Thanks in advance >>> >>> > shekher >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 >
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