--- On Sun, 6/22/08, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RhinoScript only works with JS files (not ftl or jsp)
RhinoScript? I must have gotten a truncated version of Greg's post; I didn't see anything about JavaScript at all. Dave > > Your Best option is to configure in jspc task thru ant > using the compiler > option > http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jasper-howto.html > a must have for the build engineer who will want to assure > clean jsp pages > before deploying > > Anyone else? > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Lindholm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <user@struts.apache.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] What slows you down? > > > > > > When I read this I was being slowed down by constant > stopping > > and starting of Tomcat from within Eclipse... > > - make a change in an action class > > - start tomcat > > - test it... not working > > - stop tomcat > > - make a java change > > - repeat.... > > > > In this case I was working on validation logic with > annotations. > > How else do you test validation logic? Can you unit > test validation > > logic? Is there a better way? [1] > > > > Part of this problem was I wasn't sure if my OGNL > expression was correct. > > How do you test/debug OGNL expressions when they will > depend on > > the ValueStack? [2] > > > > Another part of the problem is the doc for > FieldExpressionValidator > > doesn't > > bother to tell you which direction (true or false) the > expression should > > return to pass or fail the validation. [3] > > > > BTW: I really really like Struts 2. Over the years > I've went from Struts > > 1, > > to JSF, and now Struts 2, and S2 is by far the best > and easiest and > > most enjoyable. > > > > The thing that slowed me down the most was the > learning curve. I started > > with > > the online tutorials, and the "Starting Struts > 2" pdf book, then I had to > > start > > working on my application. It was very rough going at > first, I spent a > > lot > > of time > > in the debugger trying to figure out what the hell was > going on. Then I > > read > > "Struts 2 Design and Programming" and felt > better, went back and fixed > > some > > of the bad designs I started with but still was > lacking much knowledge. > > Finally > > "Struts 2 in Action" was released and I got > time to read it **. > > I finally feel comfortable, and figure I understand > how Struts 2 really > > works. > > Now I'm going back again and fixing more early bad > designs. [4] > > > > One more, un-versioned online documentation. > > Under the URL http://struts.apache.org/2.0.11.1/docs > (which anyone would > > reasonably believe is documentation for Struts 2.0.11) > is documentation > > that > > only applies to release 2.1.x. More then a couple of > times I've had a > > problem > > searched for a solution found it in the 2.0.11.1 docs > started implementing > > it > > only to discover it was only for 2.1.x. (very > frustrating.) [5] > > > > [1] Unit testing validation logic > > [2] Debugging OGNL expressions > > [3] Poor or incomplete documentation, lack or > real-world examples and use > > cases > > [4] Learning curve > > [5] Un-versioned docs. > > > > ** Struts 2 in Action is a really good book, highly > recommend it. However, > > I > > don't think I would have got nearly as much out of > it if I hadn't already > > gone > > through the other books and hand's on struggles > before I read it. > > > > > > Ted Husted wrote: > >> > >> Since it's friday, let me pose a question to > the group ... > >> > >> Even with rock-solid frameworks like Apache > Struts, it still seems > >> like web application development takes longer than > it should. Some > >> frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, speak directly to > "time to market" > >> concerns and have been gathering many followers. > >> > >> But why does web application still seem so > difficult or so > >> time-consuming? Are there time bandits that still > suck days or weeks > >> out of your development schedule? Are there time > gremlins that > >> "nickel-and-dime" you every hour of > every day? Is there anything more > >> that frameworks like Apache Struts can do to help? > Or are just there > >> intractable problems with web development itself? > >> > >> Thoughts? :) > >> > >> -Ted. > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://www.nabble.com/-OT--What-slows-you-down--tp18027912p18050807.html > > Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
