Musachy abused the first rule, dont' feed the trolls... :) > Subject: SV: [OT] What slows you down? > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:27:10 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: user@struts.apache.org > > As I said: > I'm not that a great coder, and not an expert php or java coder. > Coding pure logic in java or php goes at a nice pace. > > Once you are in the loop where you got a variable, object, list/map/tree > of stuffs - and need that converted to something html'ish ... then for > me php is far easier to do that with. Struts2 is not. And I have max 2y > on-and-off hobby experience with php. > Zend isn't silver bullet AS I SAID, but it's definitely easier. Notice > how random coders jumps on it wagon... how many kids jumps on struts?? > More or less none... > > Are we talking about being productive? Make stuff fast? Time to deliver? > Or are we talking about something else? > > Let me Quote: > " Some frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, speak directly to "time to > market" > concerns and have been gathering many followers." > BECAUSE ITS EASY TO GET STUFF DONE. DON'T NEED TO BE GEEKISH or 3y+ > EXPERIENCE. You even don't need college... sad really. > > I just stated that struts2 are not making me productive. Notice how > often I say it's difficult to find and fix problems related to X. > > PHP + notepad++ - no debuggers or ide. No particular tools. But I get > stuff done... even I'm amazed, cause look at php as a language or zend > as framework - certainly not pretty. > > I just made a huge rant on java and struts not being productive for me. > If you get exception error because of 3 words - that's your problem. > Someone asked me what slowed me down - I answered. Maybe my answers is > just noob errors or whatever, I don't care. I just don't think or feel > I'm productive. Others here favour JSF... I don't see ppl being > productive with that either. Sure it got some nice stuff I want to try, > but that's pretty much it. > > Maybe in 5y I'm doing magic and got total different problems, but that's > then. Not now. > > Mvh > Frode T. Johansen > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: Musachy Barroso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sendt: 20. juni 2008 17:14 > > Til: Struts Users Mailing List > > Emne: Re: [OT] What slows you down? > > > > I won't comment on all this, because, I am totally biased, and it is > > friday after all, but here: > > > > "Look to php zend framework" > > > > that was it for me, lol. > > > > musachy > > > > Ok...I won't talk about the rest because I am obviously biased > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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