Hey "nobody" dude -- If S2 is not for you, why do you spend so much time here?
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:37 AM, nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dave Newton wrote: > > in some ways I like being coupled to static methods even less because > it's > > not injectable. > > Not true. FacesContext is injectable with if you use Seam, Spring IoC, or > Guice. Perhaps the native IoC container in JSF will provide this > injectability natively in JSF 2.0. > > > Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds wrote: > > Agreed. Using a static method call is NOT a form of decoupling from the > > framework. In fact, it's less desirable than an interface because its > > harder to > > test and override. > > They are degrees of coupling. JSF's sue of a static method call results in > much less framework coupling than, say, inheriting a base class as Struts2 > would have you do. This is because the static method call can be mocked > quite easily whereas Struts2 base classes (and whatever they depend on) > not > nearly as easily. > > I agree that the ultimate decoupling is simple interfaces, and this is > precisely what JSF and Spring-MVC use. Both also use static method calls > to > obtain framework services. Struts2 does not. Instead, Struts2 forces you > to > either use its base classes or, if you choose to use its interfaces, > rewrite > a lot of plumbing that you shouldn't have to rewrite. > > As has been pointed out in other threads, suffers from the Fragile Base > Class anti-pattern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_base_class). I > don't think anyone would claim JSF and Spring-MVC suffer from this > problem, > and although they do have problems of their own, they're not necessarily > fundamental design issues like with Struts2. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Actions-without-extending-ActionSupport--tp15591064p15762345.html > Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
