Dead on, Wendy. Brett lives in Portland, as does Craig, the perpetrator of Shale. You would have to be daffy to use Shale in my opinion. I have a lot of respect generally for Brett and was really disappointed to see him say that Shale has a service-oriented architecture. As anyone remotely conversant with SOA knows, the services are orthongonal to the normal layers of a framework, so this is patent nonsense and is just another sales job. If you are starting out, I would highly recommend using Spring and its web framework until someone can tell what will become of the madness here at Struts.
On 5/16/06, Wendy Bossons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm looking at new frameworks for my app -- does anyone know when Shale will officially be released? Also, what is the benefit of it working with JSF? Wouldn't you want to do one or the other? ..\Wendy Jonathan Revusky wrote: > Niall Pemberton wrote: >> Brett McLaughlin is writing a series of five articles (titled "All >> Hail Shale") on Shale and the second has just been published: >> >> Part 1: Shale isn't Struts >> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-shale0228/?ca=dgr-lnxw07Shale > > > > Good for the laugh anyway. I was just starting to read the above one > and chuckled when I got to the the last sentence of the first > paragraph under "Evaluating Shale": > > <QUOTE>You'll put as much work into writing a new Shale application, > or converting a Struts application to Shale, as if Shale had nothing > at all to do with Struts.</QUOTE> > > <LOL> > > "as if"... Indeed.... :-) > > Jonathan Revusky > -- > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > >> >> >> Part 2: Anatomy of a Shale application >> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-shale05126/ >> >> See the wiki for a full list of Shale articles: >> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/Shale/Resources >> >> Niall > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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