Paul Benedict wrote:
I was looking through the No Fluff Just Stuff session highlights. It looks 
pretty cool, but then I
came across the synoposis for Struts Shale... Hmmm....... I have to say, the 
wording was pretty
surprising and -- almost provoking? I'd like to hear other people's thoughts 
just for fun. I don't
know who wrote this little piece but I think it sounds pretty haughty?

"Struts is the most popular Java-based Web application framework today, but 
that's rapidly
changing. There's a newcomer on the block, a leaner, meaner, better-designed 
framework loosely
based on Struts that's poised to dethrone Struts as the reigning king of 
Java-based web
application frameworks. That framework, of course, is JavaServer Faces. Craig 
McClanahan, the
father of Struts and the co-spec lead for JSF 1.0, has proposed reinventing 
Struts for Struts 2.0
as a set of services for JSF applications. That new framework, which has no 
direct ties to Struts
as we know it, is called Shale."

http://www.nofluffjuststuff.com/show_view.jsp?showId=46

Did you know Shale was poised to dethrone Struts? LOL

It has been so poised for some time, or so we've heard. Call me when it actually dethrones ANYTHING. The same goes for JSF in general.

Sorry, that probably sounds harsher than I intend it to... I am more than a little jaded, but I'm not trying to piss anyone off... my point is simply that we've been hearing this type of thing seemingly forever now, it's nothing new. I for one frankly just tune it out as just so much hype.

It does seem like there might be some seriously conflicting visions of Struts 2.0, at least based on this summation and what has been talked about lately as far as WebWork goes. When that all gets sorted out one way or the other, I'll start caring again.

Paul

Frank


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