Thanks for the response, Craig. It's nice to get an answer from THE authority :-). Questions below...

On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:

I'd definitely ignore anything about prereleases of JSF 1.0 ... that has been out for nearly two years now. A good starting place for general JSF knowledge and information is <http://jsfcentral.com>. Kito does a good job of staying on top of the most recent articles and items of interest. This, by the way, is *exactly* the place to start before looking much at Shale itself -- Shale *srongly* presumes that you are familiar with JSF, and what it brings to the table all by itself, because it focuses on adding value around the edges. Without understanding those edges a little, it's harder
to appreciate the benefits :-).

Okay, I'll try to find a "hello world" JSF example. That might be enough for me to build on.

A question comes up: what has happened to Tiles? Is it no longer a part of Struts? I'm still terribly unfamiliar with the new Struts website.

Do I bother creating a nice Tiles hierarchy of layouts and tiles? Or is there some other way to get site L&F re-use?

Beyond the Shale web site[1], there's not a heck of a lot of stuff yet. One high level overview is the session I did at ApacheCon (reprised from one that David Geary and I did at JavaOne)[2] ... but the slides lose a little in the translation without the corresponding demo program, which is not in a
shape that I'm quite ready to check in yet :-).

Okay, I'll hold off worrying about Shale for now. Sounds like I can work it in easily enough when the time comes.


Here's my big question: do I still think in terms of Struts Actions handling the business logic of my application (which they rarely do; they usually glue to the "real" biz code)? Or do I look to putting all that glue within JSF controllers?

Thanks!

--
Rick



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