Actually, not to start that holy war, but I'm in the middle of refactoring
my Struts 1.1 app, and am trying to decide whether there's any compelling
reason to upgrade to either 1.2.x, or Shale.

Struts 1.1 has certainly been just fine - and unless there's a good reason
(important security upgrade, must-have feature, significant speed
improvements, etc.) I'm happy staying with it.  But I feel like I should
understand why I'm staying with a codebase which is no longer being
maintained, rather than doing it through ignorance.

Any thoughts?

Daniel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Poitras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:01 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: How does Shale affect my Struts development
> 
> Bernhard is totally right. The choice you are facing is 
> wheter you want to go for now on with components-based 
> frameworks (JSF/Shale,
> Tapestry) or a typical action-based framework 
> (Struts/Webwork). Struts is supporting the two choices for 
> the moment and I think it's great!
> 
> But don't ask for the pro and cons of each approach here or 
> you'll start a holy war! Just kidding ;)
> 
> On 12/29/05, Bernhard Slominski 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > don't make the following mistake:
> > "I use Struts but I want to move on, so I have to use Shale!"
> >
> > Shale is build ON TOP of JSF, so to understand the benefit of Shale 
> > you have to know JSF.
> > So the first question to ask yourself:
> > "Do I want to move to JSF or is Struts just fine for me?"
> > When you decided to move to JSF or to at least take a 
> closer look at 
> > it then after being familiar with JSF you can look at Shale 
> and see if 
> > that's the right technology for you.
> > I guess in your case you seem to be fine with Struts, so 
> just stay with it!
> >
> > Bernhard
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Jim Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2005 15:10
> > > An: user@struts.apache.org
> > > Betreff: How does Shale affect my Struts development
> > >
> > >
> > > First off, a little background. I have started using the 'Struts'
> > > framework about 1 year ago. I have created three apps, and all is 
> > > moving along pretty well with the Struts and model 2 
> approach. I am 
> > > just starting to use more design patterns for my business 
> logic, etc.
> > >
> > > Anyway, as you may be aware I frequent this list, and try 
> to keep up 
> > > with what is going on with the Struts project.
> > >
> > > I am noticing a lot of 'Shale' discussion, and I have 
> just finished 
> > > reading the link here 
> <http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/> and 
> > > franky, I am not sure what Shale brings to the table that is not 
> > > already included with Struts?
> > >
> > > I guess, the reason for this post is, I was hoping possibly there 
> > > are people out there who understand this Struts/Shale and 
> could tell 
> > > me how to get started, and what the gain is. Whether the best 
> > > approach is to build a simple Struts app and convert it, or what 
> > > steps I need to take in order to be prepared and keep my 
> skill set 
> > > where it needs to be.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > 
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