>> That's not true; there are other committers who have done work under Shale.

This is probably my fault, but that's not what I meant. :) When I said "it has 
nothing to do with
the Struts community, minus the creator," I am not talking about the people, 
but the architecture.
As far as I can tell, Shale isn't about creating a new 2.0 or 3.0 of Struts, 
but to create a
framework that specifically support JSF apps. Shale did not grow out of Struts 
architecturally,
and I can't call either a revolution or evolution. It's just a whole different 
application now and
I don't think it belongs as "Struts" per se, but it's own standalone project. I 
think there is
more truth in that than the branding it has now.

Now I hope this opinion doesn't make me unlikeable on this forum ;-) Maybe I am 
not holding the
party line, but I can't figure out why the Struts label is suddenly becoming a 
multi-framework
branding. It just doesn't make sense to me and I think is the wrong decision 
here. With that said,
I love Struts (the real one) and am committed to improving it.

> Why not leave it be and put your (collective) energy towards building > 
> something you want to
use instead of kibitzing about something you > don't?  There are plenty of open 
tickets for Struts
1.x....

I've been slowly doing this already in Bugzilla. I hope others dedicate their 
free time to
improving Struts too.

Paul


                
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