[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: *"I think it is best to use directly domain objects, i.e. ye old (but good) OOP with "real" objects."* ** +1 :) Best Regards
Rafael Mauricio Nami 2005/10/17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm not a guru but... > Once I thought that DTOs are a nice way to separate the webapp's layers, > just because they are simply data containers and have no logic. > But now I think they are completely useless, because they have no logic! I > know it is stupid to use the same answer for two opposite points of view. > The cause of my change-of-mind is the so-called "anhemic programming" that > DTOs promote. > I think it is best to use directly domain objects, i.e. ye old (but good) > OOP with "real" objects. Someone could say that this breaks security, but > I don't think so, because security will be broken only with a misuse of > these objects (e.g. calling business methods in JSPs). > I am sure that many developers of the list agree with me, and many others > don't. > I think that the "ease of code" principle must be followed, then DTOs are > simply a loss of time, IMO. > Ciao > Antonio Petrelli > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Hi, Gurus, > > > >Background: I just started a Struts project with Hibernate. I have > chosen to use the Data Access Object with (Abstract Factory) design > pattern because my client uses Oracle and I use Postgresql database. I am > working with other teams remotely and they decided to use DTO. > > > >Problem: A few months ago, I recall a message thread on this list with a > subject header of: 'DTOs are evil'. Since I am new to this, I am having > problems understanding why. I thought that DTO are for data storage and > data transfer between Business and Value Objects. > > > >Questions: I have the following questions: > > > >1. Why I shouldn't choose it? > > > >2. Should I be using the Apache Commons BeanUtils in my action? It has a > method like BeanUtils.copyProperties(...). > > > >3. If not BeanUtils, then what do you recommend? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Bob > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >