[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
*"I think it is best to use directly domain objects, i.e. ye old (but good)
OOP with "real" objects."*
**
+1 :)
 Best Regards

Rafael Mauricio Nami


 2005/10/17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'm not a guru but...
> Once I thought that DTOs are a nice way to separate the webapp's layers,
> just because they are simply data containers and have no logic.
> But now I think they are completely useless, because they have no logic! I
> know it is stupid to use the same answer for two opposite points of view.
> The cause of my change-of-mind is the so-called "anhemic programming" that
> DTOs promote.
> I think it is best to use directly domain objects, i.e. ye old (but good)
> OOP with "real" objects. Someone could say that this breaks security, but
> I don't think so, because security will be broken only with a misuse of
> these objects (e.g. calling business methods in JSPs).
> I am sure that many developers of the list agree with me, and many others
> don't.
> I think that the "ease of code" principle must be followed, then DTOs are
> simply a loss of time, IMO.
> Ciao
> Antonio Petrelli
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Hi, Gurus,
> >
> >Background: I just started a Struts project with Hibernate. I have
> chosen to use the Data Access Object with (Abstract Factory) design
> pattern because my client uses Oracle and I use Postgresql database. I am
> working with other teams remotely and they decided to use DTO.
> >
> >Problem: A few months ago, I recall a message thread on this list with a
> subject header of: 'DTOs are evil'. Since I am new to this, I am having
> problems understanding why. I thought that DTO are for data storage and
> data transfer between Business and Value Objects.
> >
> >Questions: I have the following questions:
> >
> >1. Why I shouldn't choose it?
> >
> >2. Should I be using the Apache Commons BeanUtils in my action? It has a
> method like BeanUtils.copyProperties(...).
> >
> >3. If not BeanUtils, then what do you recommend?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Bob
> >
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