> Hi All,
>
> I can't find answers to the following questions anywhere on the
> struts/shale web pages. I hope someone can help me here.
>
> * Is this list the appropriate one for shale questions?
>
Yep, you have the right place.
> The shale pages don't have any info about mailing lists. From an
> internet search it looks like the convention is to ask questions here
> prefixing the subject with [shale]. Is this right?
>
That is the correct protocol too.
> * Are there any releases other than nightlies?
>
> The shale pages only link to nightly releases. The wiki has info on a
> 1.0.0 release but I can't see any such files on the apache download site.
>
> * How stable is shale/clay?
>
> I'm just starting a reasonable size project with JSF. JSF is nice, but
> JSP as a front end sucks - esp. when using tiles as (AFAIK) all raw html
> needs to be output via or in order to get
> the output in the correct order w.r.t. JSF components. I would love to
> use a tapestry-like approach, ie template using real HTML - and it
> appears that clay does exactly this. However I also need something
> *reasonably* stable, as this project does have a delivery date. I don't
> mind finding/fixing the occasional bug in Clay. Is clay stable enough
> for this or is it still "experimental"?
>
Core Shale seems very stable and I believe that we are near the first release.
Last I discussed with Craig, Clay would probably not make the Shale 1.0
release. The concern was that we didn't want to lock down the API when there
was still allot of features being requested. It's not as well tested as we
would like to see too.
Much of the recent activity for Clay has been in response to feature requests
on the struts mailing lists.
I have one big refactoring that I would like to get in soon. The attributes
"set" node in the XML metadata has a couple attributes that are very confusing
("useMethodLateBinding" and "useValueLateBinding"). I think these attributes
can be combine into a single "hasValueBinding" attribute but I'd like to hear
discussion first.
I think that clay has allot of potential. I hope you consider it and
participant in its shaping.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Simon
>
Gary
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