Okay I've found the place to go for all things Shale but my other two 
questions still stand.

Thanks,

John

"John Atherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I was about to dive straight into a pretty standard Model 2 application 
> for a client that I would have ordinarily written from scratch.  I've been 
> meaning to look at Struts for a while ... I now have and it's clearly 
> going to give me a leg-up when writing the "top half" of the application. 
> Then I came across Shale.  I've never used JSF so firstly, is this now the 
> way to go?  Secondly, where can I find out more?  And finally how steep is 
> the learning curve?  There doesn't appear to be the Shale equivalent of 
> http://struts.apache.org
>
> Any help gratefully received.
>
> John 




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