Daniel Perry wrote:

>> Again, that's a situation where you are involving consultants.
>> Consultants
>> are expected to know the technology and not learn it on their customers'
>> time.  When a company has its own IT staff, there are rarely
>> opportunities for somebody else to underbid them.
> 
> Really? the majority of the work i do is for companies/organisations that
> have their own IT department.
> 
> An example: the NHS
> They probably have more IT staff than most large software dev companies. 
> If they were a bit more organised/centralised they could save themselves a
> packet, and stop using external companies (which rip them off then get the
> work done in india on the cheap - note we do neither of these!).
> 
Sorry, that should have been "When a company _uses_ its own IT staff".  I've
rarely worked anywhere where the IT dept competes against itself (it does
happen, and I think it's generally a bad thing).  In fact, I too am working
for clients with their own IT staff.  If the IT department has to compete
against outside contractors, it _should_ be an uphill battle.  I'm bidding
on those contracts where I know I have expertise they don't have in-house. 
I should be able to underbid them, and not waste time experimenting with
technologies. Often part of that contract will involve teaching the
in-house staff how to maintain the end-product - and next time I may not
have the edge in bidding that I had the first time.
-- 
derek


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