On 7/3/05, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > > From a personal perspective, I was a die hard Emacs user until about a > > year ago, when IDEs finally started getting to the point where they > > could make *me* more productive. > > > > > http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20050305 > I quote above bile: "JSF is NOT for real java developers, it's for those > paint by numbers by kids" >
I can't claim to have read *every* single post to the user list in the last six years, but, AFAIK, this is the first time *anyone* has ever claimed the Bile Blog as a source of authoritative comment in a discussion (as opposed to linking to it for entertainment value :-). Can anyone here remember any other case? Even if it's not the first, it is still ridiculous enough to be memorialized :-). > Vi! > Vim! (Vi improved) > gVim! (Gui Vi). > That's progress. I do like refactoring IDE's like Eclipse and other. But > for UI? It's a 90% solution; and I live in the last 10%. Is there a > shipping produciton app done w/ UI? > C'mon Vic ... you know the answer to that question. > What w/ F22 and Democracy being invoked. > > I get more producitivity out of applying OO using brain, then painters, > your millage may vary. I will show you an example UI(in about a month > after I ship beta of my new project), and then ... maybe put a small > bounty if *ANYONE* can re-produce it using a painter or VS '05 or whatever! Whether or not *you* accomplish that feat is irrelevant to whether IDEs or useful or not in general. After all, nearly all of us are after the 90 case%, not the 10% case. > So lets have another IDE flameball in a month? (that would be a big > decrease, right now it's twice a week). Or lets just have a policy to > have IDE wars on another mail list and ban those on Struts. > So when are you going to stop whining about anyone who uses IDEs? :-) Or arguing on the basis of "it's almost done, it's gonna be so cool" software, instead of what already exists? > .V Craig --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
