perhaps i'm flogging a dead horse here, but isn't

com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.jaxp.datatype.DatatypeFactoryImpl

just plain daft?

On 17/06/05 14:02 Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher wrote:
I favour using org.apache.* or com.sun.*, but never com.microsoft.*.   It
gives a certain gravitas to one's coding! ;-)

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1. Well, no one suggested that you need to search some archive.
2. It would be difficult (if not impossible) to name an example of an
application that has a namespace collision that is publicly available.  I
hope you understand why.

Finally, naming conventions are not enforced by compilers.  Name your
packages as you wish.

-Dennis





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OK, silly me, I started using java with 1.2, rather than 1.0, but it's friday, so please don't tell me to go read the archives!!!!

I admit, in theory it's easy to say, you're using blah.blah.blah.foo and so am I, a disaster in the making, but when is that going to happen? I challenge you to name me an example. Take eBay for example. They just went off and bought up all the top level domains for ebay.

What bugs me is that the low correlation between java programs and the top level domains.

Oh hell, I just wish I had 5 grand to buy ecoworks.com :-(



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Why, just the other day, I contemplated the same thing. In fact, I TOO named my OSS package blah.blah.blah. But wait, what would've happened

if
you and I had not only the same package structure, but also 2 classes

with
the same name e.g. blah.blah.blah.foo, and you decided to use my OSS?

I'm guessing that you haven't been using Java very long, because the

issue
of namespace collision was well discussed when 1.0 came out. Hopefully,


you understand why you're suggestion is sil...er, not feasible.

-Dennis







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Since it's Friday and I'm just about to start a new project, I thought I'd ask everyone what they think about something that's always bugged

me.

Package names in Java. Why do we all have com.blah.blah or org.apache.stuff.xxx instead of just plain blah.blah.blah and apache.stuff.xxx?

What really got me on my last project was changing from one organisation


to another, the project packages had to be renamed from uk.co.bbb to com.siemans and we actually made it all the more pointless by discussing


whether it should be com.siemenz or de.siemenz.

I'd love to drop the whole top-level domain but why on earth is it there


in the first place?

My new project is for a charity ecoworks with the top-level domain .eu and they might even purchase ecoworks.org too, and I don't want to mess around, so why can't I just have my packages like this:

ecoworks.forum.etc
ecoworks.newsfeed.etc

instead of eu.ecoworks or eu.ecoworks or whatever.

And why isn't it just plain apache.struts or apache.tomcat? It's not as though there's ever going to be a mix up with code like com.apache. - or


is there?

And even if there is, why is the mix-up possibility so important when it


comes to package names, when it's not considered when it comes to jar naming conventions. If there ever was a com.apache.struts, what would they call their jar? Would they have to use com_struts-1.2.7.jar


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