If you have to embed it in your site, and in your site only, forget about
sockets, xml and other "complicated" staff.

3 actions (getmessage, sendmessage, checkmessage) 2 html pages, a bit
javascript (for reloads) and 
5-10 classes on the business logic will be enough.

Don't make things unneccessary complicated :-)

Regards
Leon 


P.S. if you find that you need a more complicated solution in 6 month, you
still can develop it then. 
Develop now things you need now, don't look for tomorrow :-) (X.P.) 


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Miquel Angel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 08:36
> An: Struts Users Mailing List
> Betreff: RE: [OT] Recommendation of Instant Messagging System
> 
> Erik, Leon and Jason, thank you very much for your answers.
> 
> I think we will develop our own system (we need a messaging 
> system integrated with our system: our table of users, our 
> forms, ...), but we have no experience with sockets, 
> ServletSockets, Threats ...  We are goog developing business 
> software (data base access, transactions, reports, ...)
> 
> I found a book that seems a good point to start : Instant 
> messaging in Java:
> The Jabber protocols
> We are looking for a system to start to work with it (we 
> expect to find it in that book).
> 
> One important requirement is that this software must run on 
> Internet not only in a Intranet.
> 
> Yours, Miquel Angel Seguí
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Erik Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: 
> miércoles, 04 de mayo de 2005 18:39
> Para: Struts Users Mailing List
> Asunto: Re: [OT] Recommendation of Instant Messagging System
> 
> 
> I just finished putting together a system with a Swing client 
> and combined services over XMPP and HTTP.
> 
> I think Leon's suggestion of doing your own is not bad, if 
> you are good with Sockets, ServerSockets, XML APIs and 
> Threads (find a good tutorial on building a chat system such 
> as in the ubiquitous "Thinking in Java").
> There is also JMS which gives you a low-level core. If you 
> want something higher level, just get Smack from 
> jivesoftware.com, which will give you an OO interface to 
> Jabber (XMPP). Then get jabberd from jabber.org. jabberd 1.4  
> is small, written in C and gets the job done for what you are 
> talking about, so I would start with that. They are working 
> on the 2.0 "enterprise" version.
> 
> I will warn you that while Smack is a great library (you'll 
> get classes such as "Chat", "Packet", "Message", "Presence", 
> etc.), there are some pitfalls related to Threading to watch 
> out for. I rewrote about a half dozen of the core classes. 
> Fortunately, Smack operates with just two main disptach 
> Threads so once you spend some time with the PacketReader and 
> XMPPConnection classes, you'll figure it out. Apache license, too.
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> masegui wrote:
> 
> >The requirements are these:
> >1. A user has a list of the other users in the system. He 
> can click a 
> >button that initiates a conversation with the selected user. 
> The other 
> >user can accept or not the conversation. If accepts, a "chat 
> room" is 
> >opened and now then can have a conversation. The rooms only accept 2 
> >people. We would like a user to be able to have several 
> conversations 
> >at a time, but each conversation only between 2 people.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Miquel Angel Segui
> >
> >
> >
> >><-----Original Message----->
> >>From: Leon Rosenberg
> >>Sent: 4/5/2005 10:50:38 AM
> >>To: user@struts.apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: [OT] Recommendation of Instant Messagging System
> >>
> >>if your only functionality is to allow users to send each other
> >>
> >>
> >messages
> >
> >
> >>which are embedded in the site (html, or something, but no 
> >>standalone-desktop solutions) forget about existing systems and 
> >>implement it by yourself.
> >>I have implemented dozens of such systems over the time, 
> it's normally 
> >>about 100 locs, much less effort than an integration of an existing 
> >>system is.
> >>
> >>maybe you could tell us a bit more, about the requirements of the 
> >>system, so we could give you more specific answer.
> >>
> >>regards
> >>Leon
> >>
> >>On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 08:13 +0200, Miquel Angel wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>We are developing an application (struts 1.1 + Tomcat 5.5 + Java
> >>>
> >>>
> >1.4). One
> >
> >
> >>>of the requirements is to implement an instant messaging system for
> >>>
> >>>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>>users of the site (the system should not be very complex). Do you
> >>>
> >>>
> >mind to
> >
> >
> >>>share your experience in using this system. We are looking for free
> >>>
> >>>
> >or non
> >
> >
> >>>free systems.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>>Miquel Angel Segui
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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