> In practice, there are mutliple iterations of this, and I couldn't
> conceive of it working unless the framework person and the developer
> person work well together and are close both in the organization chart
> and geographically.

You can't get any closer than the two being the same person!  :-)  

We have three Java/Web/SQL developers.  We all pretty much have our
hands in all of the layers of the application code, from SQL and
PL/SQL all the way to HTML and JavaScript.

-- 
Jeff Beal
Webmedx, Inc.
Pittsburgh, PA USA

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