The vote was unanimous. They usually are. Otherwise, we would decide to do something else :)
No one knows what direction Struts will take, because no one person makes that decision. The people who make that decision are the people who *volunteer* the time and energy to create code and documentation and share what they create with others. It is obvious to the PMC that there is a growing community of developers interested in Shale. It is also obvious to the PMC that there is a vital community of developers interested in Struts Classic. The obvious decision is to do both. Unlike a non-volunteer organization, we are not constrained by the economics of scarcity. Adding a subproject like Shale doesn't dilute our community, it enriches our community by giving people new scratches to itch. Here are the true facts: Commits are the only decisions that matter. If you want to know where Struts is going, then watch the commits. Whatever else anyone might say is just the sound of one hand clapping. :) -Ted. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:54:49 -0800, Dakota Jack wrote: > Thanks for the answer. My question is how the community was taken > into account and whether the details of the voting is secret or > open? > > Are the votes public or is the issue raised publicly? Or is the > community taken into account privately? I am just trying to get a > feeling for what the direction of Struts is likely to be and I > cannot do this without knowing what the workings are. If they are > private, then they are. If the votes are public, I would like to > know what they were. > > Jack > > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:12:45 -0600, Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The PMC makes such decisions, but takes the community into >> account when making the decision. >> >> -- >> Eddie Bush >> >> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:13:15 -0800, Dakota Jack >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> At the risk of being flamed, might I ask if this debate, vote, >>> whatever was public or limited to the PMC? And, might I ask if >>> this was sub rosa (so to speak), is that typical? I do not >>> mean to suggest anything but merely to gather information about >>> the processes, since these processes impact my use of Struts >>> and my business decisions. Thanks. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> <snip> >>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:03:02 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> The Apache Struts team is pleased to announce the adoption of >>>> its latest subproject, Struts Shale, a JSF-based framework. >>>> >>> </snip> >> > > -- > ------------------------------ > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > back." > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." > > ~Native Proverb~ > > "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to > be crows." > > ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ > > ----------------------------------------------- > > "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive > this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take > any action based on this message or any information herein. If you > have received this message in error, please advise the sender > immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for > your cooperation." > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
