Yup, browsing would be nice!  I cant find a product that does it all.
tortoise is nice for general cvs use (ie commiting, updating, etc from other
peoples servers).  I find eclipse more useful for my work though - list of
files that have changes, incoming, outgoing, conflicts, built in diff - only
annoying thing is that it adds everything in the folders to list, so you
have to be carefull if you hit the 'commit all outgoing changes' button.

For browsing cvs servers i use viewcvs.  It has to be installed on the
server (i think) but most opensource servers have it, and i use it on our
server.  It is by far the best way to browse a cvs tree.  (If it's on your
own server you can turn on features like download tarball - which will make
you a tar for any part of the tree for any tag!)

I wish there was an easy to use program that featured eclipse like projects
with the incoming/outgoing/conflicts/etc and the flexibility of browsing
from viewcvs.  It would also be nice if such a tool also supported
subversion aswell as cvs.

Or maybe i should just learn to use command line cvs/svn and i might find
that to be better!

Daniel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 January 2005 21:49
> To: Daniel Perry
> Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] WinCVS problem (free beer!)
>
>
> Yep, TortoiseCVS is what I'm using, as it was the only one I got working
> :) Does the job though.
>
> I was under the impression that you could browse a CVS repository with
> most of these tools, and that doesn't seem to be the case.  Maybe the
> one in Eclipse can do it, but most don't seem to have that capability.
> With that in mind, TortoiseCVS seems the past of least resistance for me.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> --
> Frank W. Zammetti
> Founder and Chief Software Architect
> Omnytex Technologies
> http://www.omnytex.com
>
>
> Daniel Perry wrote:
> > Give tortoisecvs a try.  I personally prefer it to wincvs.
> >
> > http://www.tortoisecvs.org/download.shtml
> >
> > After trying both (and eclipse), i came up with the conclusions:
> >
> > eclipse is the easiest (so use it if using eclipse)
> >
> > tortoise provides nice shell integration that gives an almost 'human'
> > perspective on cvs.
> >
> > wincvs gives a gui interface to the command line tools, with
> lots of menus
> > etc. As i had no real cvs knowledge, wincvs confused me!  I
> found tortoise
> > far far easier to use.
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 05 January 2005 22:35
> >>To: David G. Friedman
> >>Cc: Struts Users Mailing List; Commons User
> >>Subject: Re: [OT] WinCVS problem (free beer!)
> >>
> >>
> >>Indirectly I've thought about it... A lot of guys are using WASD at
> >>work, which is of course Eclipse-based, but I've been resisting.  I've
> >>used a number of IDEs over the years, and I've always found that they
> >>get in my way far more than they help.  That's just me, but it's been my
> >>experience.  At this point I have such a refined work style between
> >>UltraEdit and Tomcat that I can actually work more efficiently overall
> >>than with any IDE I've tried (and I have actually spent some time
> >>playing with WSAD, and it doesn't seem to be any different in terms of
> >>that).  They don't call me the Batch File King (tm) at work for
> nothin' :)
> >>
> >>FYI, I'm trying to let WinCVS run it's course right now as per Glenn's
> >>suggestion.  I also tried hitting escape as Matt suggested, but it
> >>didn't unfreeze it, so it wouldn't appear to be that problem (plus I'm
> >>not seeing any drive activity, which I'd expect to see if it was doing
> >>what Glenn suggested).
> >>
> >>It's weird, I can move the window around no problem, but I can't do
> >>anything with any part of the interface (and large parts of the
> >>interface get "erased" when I move any window over it, typical Windows
> >>frozen app syndrom)
> >>
> >>--
> >>Frank W. Zammetti
> >>Founder and Chief Software Architect
> >>Omnytex Technologies
> >>http://www.omnytex.com
> >>
> >>David G. Friedman wrote:
> >>
> >>>Frank,
> >>>
> >>>Ever think of using Eclipse (v3.X) ?  I use it for
> >>
> >>Java/Struts/Tomcat (Via
> >>
> >>>the Sysdeo plug-in) development and it includes a built-in CVS client.
> >>>Add-ons also allow for SVN.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>David Friedman / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:11 PM
> >>>To: Commons User; Struts User
> >>>Subject: [OT] WinCVS problem (free beer!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ok, no free beer, I lied ;)  Got your attention though!
> >>>
> >>>I'm just now trying to use CVS for the first time, and I'm having a
> >>>problem I haven't been able to figure out, and I'm sure at
> least some of
> >>>you here are using WinCVS, so I hope no one minds an OT
> question (FYI, I
> >>>couldn't find a WinCVS support forum)...
> >>>
> >>>I've installed WinCVS 1.3 (the latest from the WinCVW.org site,
> >>>downloaded today) on Windows XP.  I haven't however installed Python or
> >>>TCL, as they are optional.  The install went fine.
> >>>
> >>>But, when I try to run it, it freezes.  I see the splash
> screen, and the
> >>>popup mentioning Python.  I click OK, and it's just frozen, can't do
> >>>anything.  I can close it via right-clicking the taskbar item, but
> >>>nothing else.  It works on my work PC by the way, although I can't do
> >>>anything with it there because of firewall restrictions, so I really
> >>>need it working at home.
> >>>
> >>>I've checked to be sure the CvsNT and CvsNT Locking services are
> >>>running, and they are (not even sure that's necassery, but
> still).  I've
> >>>spent 30 minutes or so Googling for an answer but haven't had any luck.
> >>>
> >>>Any ideas from anyone around here?  Again, sorry for the OT post, but I
> >>>couldn't resist tapping the expertise of these lists.  Thanks a lot!
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Frank W. Zammetti
> >>>Founder and Chief Software Architect
> >>>Omnytex Technologies
> >>>http://www.omnytex.com
> >>>
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