At 4:46 PM -0600 11/8/04, Vic (Vinny) Cekvenich wrote:
Tak, just so you know, source is here:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/trunk

(of course I am unhappy about JSF part )

Why? It's not like Shale is carved in stone yet. (er... no pun intended). Now is the time for people who are interested in a new version of Struts to talk about it. Craig is putting something out there. He has a clear idea which benefits from a relationship to the JSF apis. A lot of people have hesitated or outright complained (myself included), but no one has yet said much about why JSF is bad. More to the point, critics should either explain how the features Craig delegates to the JSF API could be a delivered in some alternative way, or why those features aren't important enough to merit a tie to JSF.


And as for people's questions about "when?" Well, these discussions have to happen, and use cases need to be conceived, and code has to be written, and then it has to be tested, and everyone who is interested is invited to join in on any and all of that... and when all that has happened, it will be released, and unless someone steps up to sponsor the development and get a bunch of people focused on it as a day job, then I doubt you'll see anyone hazarding a guess about a time frame any time soon.

Joe

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