Interesting... I wonder if the answer would be different if you make the distinction between forwarding to another Action and just calling execute() of another Action. I think both have problems certainly, but just calling execute() seems a little less offensive to me because there is a greater degree of control over what is being done (i.e., no auto-population to worry about for instance).

Frank


From: "Joe Hertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pulling Punches
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:48:00 -0400

Okay, whew. Knew I had seen something else about it.

http://www.jguru.com/faq/view.jsp?EID=1057613

"...There are times when one Action should forward to another, but only
to display the final result. Using a second action to complete a
business transaction is where we start sliding toward the dark side.".

So, I figured getting the data to display was safe. Caring about the
request data however seems to be where one draws the line, which this
question clearly did.

Am I wrong (again)?

-Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Pulling Punches
>
>
> I don't know if it's the recommended solution (I would expect
> not), but one
> option is to instantiate your own instance of Action A and
> call execute() on
> it before returning your ActionErrors.  The caveat there is
> that you won't
> have the form or the response object available to pass to it, and the
> ActionMapping will not be the right one, so obviously if the
> Action makes
> use of any of those things, this won't work.  However, I find
> that people
> generally tend to forget that Actions are just classes with a
> method you can
> call yourself at any time, and in some cases this is quite sufficient.
>
> Frank
>
>
> >From: "Joe Hertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Pulling Punches
> >Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:49:18 -0400
> >
> > > This is not a great solution, for all the reasons that action
> > > chaining is considered dangerous.  After the validation fails,
> > > Struts would begin an entire re-execution of the RequestProcessor
> > > chain, and the archives have plenty of discussion on why that's
> > > unpredictable and worth avoiding.
> >
> >Joe-
> >
> >Not to change the subject *too* much, but what is the
> recommended way
> >of handling following case:
> >
> >User clicks a button causing Action A to fire. Brings him to a page
> >with data it needs (say for a dropdown box).
> >
> >User submits form on this page, causing Action B to fire with
> >validation. Validation fails, bringing him back to page with
> dropdown
> >box. Since Action A did NOT fire, dropdown box isn't populated.
> >
> >Short of sticking that data into a session, what is the way
> one should
> >handle this?
> >
> >An "action chain" like I described is what Andrew Hill
> suggested to me
> >on this list, and nobody screamed :-)
> >
> >
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