> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 May 2004 10:33 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: Are there any IDE's that understand Struts tags? > > > As a company we offer web design, programming, etc, etc. We > have had the > exact same problems you describe, but have gone down the > route of deciding > that IDE's arn't the way forward for web design, and that a > text editor is a > much better solution. > > So, our web designers all work with raw html. > > You may find resistance to this with designers who think html > is scarry, and > would much rather stick with dreamweaver. But when they get > into it, if > they are supported well they will find it a breeze. > > As an example, we took on a junior web designer in january who had no > html/web design skills at all, but did have general design > skills. Now he's > producing great sites, and is up to speed with html and can > happily work > with php sites, jstl/struts taglibs, etc. > > We do a lot of subcontracting for other desing companies in > the area who get > jobs that require these kinds of skills, but dont have the > people who can do > it! > > Daniel. >
For a previous banking client. They employed a freelance page designer who mocked up from Excel spreadsheets. I took his HTML page then converted them to JSTL when building the Struts front-end. I fact I do work with Dreamweaver MX for building static web sites. The HTML Table drawing editor is fantastic. I just dont know about the JSP capabilities of DreamWeaver, because the things I want to use JSTL are in fact part of Java IDE instead of a page dynamic. So I would recommend using DreamWeaver for static design up to point of creating a Look and Feel, then convert to JSP. Divide and conquer one stage at a stage. ( There a market for the one product that does both page design and IDE debugging. Perhaps that is the true remit of Java Studio Designer. ) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: McCormack, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 27 May 2004 10:03 > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: Are there any IDE's that understand Struts tags? > > > > > > I have had problems in the past getting a "web developer" from a > > number of design companies that > > a. understands what struts/jstl is > > b. understands how to change html not using DW with no reworking > > by a java developer of any tags after the redesign > > > > In my experience it has been easier to either > > a. provide a static screen in Photoshop to the designer for > > building up in a gui of their choice. A java dev then needs to > > insert the jstl etc in to the page and ensure it still maintains > > the design/layout after dynamic elements have been added. > > b. get a java dev that has the ability to rework/create the html > > inside the jsps to the required design. > > > > > > a. is easier up front but more work in the long run as it > > involves a lot more work for the java dev (especially if you are > > using tiles). > > b. is more work at first but works out better in the long run and > > has more benefits. > > > > > > There has been mention of a struts gui editor on this list > > before. You may want to check the history for the threads with > > struts+gui or struts+ide in them. I personally use > JDeveloper+Ultraedit32. > > > > > > Chris McCormack > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Lipscombe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 27 May 2004 09:40 > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > Subject: Are there any IDE's that understand Struts tags? > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I am developing a J2EE server using Struts. The JSPs will be > > constructed by > > a web developer who is used to DreamWeaver. > > > > I imported the Struts tag libraries into DW, but the > "design view" doesn't > > work. > > He cant layout the pages visually. > > > > Is this a limitation of DW? > > Are there any web IDE's that understand Struts tags and allow a > > design view > > to be used? > > > > > > TIA Adam > > ==////== -- Peter Pilgrim Operations/IT - Credit Suisse First Boston, 10 South Colonnade, London E14 4QJ, United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)207 883 4447 ============================================================================== This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ============================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
